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I'ma tell you what we've been waiting

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for this young lady right here but

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before we even get into who the special

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guest is somebody who we've been waiting

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on she can't when can we have you on

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again

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when can we get John let's talk about

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the co-creator the co-conspirator of

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this joint right here we're talking

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about Monet Neha

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what's up everybody uh welcome to I have

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another five five little fireside chat

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Priscilla's backstage she gave me the

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tongue twister that she had but uh you

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know can you believe as we get started

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here this is our 51st episode it just

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wow man it's kind of crazy kind of crazy

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and I'm so excited to have that chat

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with her this evening anyway good to be

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with you all that's the guy that makes

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it cool right there by the way I'm DJ uh

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and the guy that makes it cool right

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there and makes it look professional is

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Monet Nathan and then someone who you

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know I guess she's like this uh the

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saucer that cools uh the milk in uh like

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the Senate to the house uh is our

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researcher uh another uh legend in the

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community somebody that uh is gonna be

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big big big big big and you know who I'm

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talking about is Debs a study of UAP to

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the do G the host of Deb's data Dojo hi

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everybody what's up Deb I got to do some

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deep dive research with Priscilla this

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weekend

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to Selma to your Louise yes

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but but without look over the cliff no

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clue yeah there's no no clue but I heard

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New York's never going to be the same

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it's in recovery right now

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without further

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okay this young lady right here

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um is able to coalesce people in a way

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that is hey there's James what's up baby

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Laura's here Beverly what's up Holmes

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Raz

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is that Mikey what's up so uh hello

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everybody hopefully Julie's in the chat

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I don't know what's going on tonight if

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not I'll check with her

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um

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so yeah the thing that's interesting

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about this young lady is that she is

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able she made this UAP book club and

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immediately some of the the most

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interesting people uh and most uh uh

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intellectual folks in the game are like

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yeah sign me up and one of them in fact

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feeling like the kind of stuff I do so

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uh so Nathan is among them but yeah

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Priscilla really uh is a leader uh she

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is a a person who really brings people

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together and people are drawn to her and

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for that reason like I said about Debs I

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think and I told this to Priscilla the

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first time on a phone call that we had

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is I feel like she's a very integral and

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special person in the community around

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which uh I think people just like I said

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they coalesce and they feel comfortable

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and she's able to bring out uh the

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thoughts of people

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um and that's a skill set you know I

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don't know if she's born with it or

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she's developed it but we're sure glad

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that she's here amongst other people so

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without further Ado her first time up in

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the joint we're talking about the

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quantum witch the Thelma to Debs Louise

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party people put your hands together

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for Priscilla Stone yeah

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nothing I am just hearing um you're

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gonna hear some

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they're giving their Applause as well

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that's what I heard yeah yeah dragons in

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the house yeah

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um they want me to take them to bed and

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Priscilla wash hands oh I think he wants

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you he's talking about for your illness

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oh yeah yep yep I'm over here like

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coughing and oh my goodness I'm paper

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before we said dragons not kids I swear

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that Scott sent me some audio from his

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house today so he basically pointed his

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camera phone out the window and hit the

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sound of the record and it sounds like a

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Sasquatch screaming in his Woods like

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I'm gonna I'm gonna send it on our

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private chat and I'll I'll get Priscilla

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in there but man I was like wow is that

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a wolf or is that Bigfoot and Scott's

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like do you want to go in there and find

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out my goodness now Scott has uh

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Sasquatch hanging out around him huh

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well when when he tells you if if you

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have a chance to speak with Scott and he

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tells you about his property you're

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could be the case because it borders

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either federal or state land and I think

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acres or some huge amount of acreage

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by the the state or or federally so it

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was out there a little bit when I talked

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to him I hadn't talked to him on the

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show yet but I was talking to him about

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his books so or his book so he had

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mentioned he was you know

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and uh I think it sounds beautiful

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because there's nothing out there but

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trees and Sasquatch apparently

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he's uh Scott's inviting people to come

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up for an investigation so just keep

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that in your in your hip pocket and

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the wash hands was in fact it was like

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wow I didn't even tell anybody that I

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have a sick family right now that's

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take it away well what is on track I'm

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gonna I wanted to start off with uh so

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you guys both got back from the weekend

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in New York uh the inquiry into

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anomalous experience of the phenomena I

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think I may have said that right

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um pretty close anyway and um

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so you both were there priscilli did an

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excellent job just want to and I was

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watching in the live virtual audience

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with everybody and uh so many people in

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the chat were just oh just amazed and I

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I was like you know well she's she's in

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that natural you know it makes sense we

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did an excellent job introducing uh

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Mitch and just being that presence that

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that you have on stage there and Deb I

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saw you on camera too I was like Deb's

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in the front row of course she's in the

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front row you know she's right there

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when I looked at her at her and dancing

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together and it kind of helped me like

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zero in a little bit

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um because I was getting more emotional

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than I was nervous because it was just

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so beautiful to see so many people Under

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um that care so deeply about this so I

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was kind of like don't cry don't cry

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so I looked at her and dad and I was

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yeah well Deb Deb definitely has that

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grounding ability so I wanted to get a

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quick take from both of you uh Deb from

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the audience and and Priscilla being

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upstairs up on the stage and kind of

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mixing with the the speakers you know

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just a quick summation how did you think

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who do you want to have go first I'll

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Priscilla to jump in okay well I think

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it went X like extremely well I felt

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like I was back at College it was very

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academic

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themes among the speakers if you were

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paying really deep attention which I

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summarized in one page and then showed

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everyone and was like do you agree this

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was the summary of the day

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um and I feel like the crowd was so

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enthusiastic but in a very serious way

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like it wasn't like ridiculous

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stuff that we see I won't say where but

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people were just really kind to each

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other and really just appreciated

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getting the respect from each other the

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mutual respect from each other that a

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lot of people actually really deserve in

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this community so that's awesome

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Priscilla what about you

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it was pretty cool and I definitely made

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sure to like hang out next to the stage

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so I could watch everybody uh speak

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because that was my true intention of

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just going to hear everybody speak

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before I got invited to help co-host in

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announce Mitch which I was like super uh

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nervous about like he's an amazing

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writer and a weird synchronicity

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happened leading up to that I had been

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familiar with like his YouTube stuff and

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his kibalyan and his occults like um

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talks but I'd never read one of his

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books and he got announced a little bit

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later and I was like oh well I better

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order one of his books now it's a

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perfect excuse and then they asked me to

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announce him and Jake had asking like

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after I ordered the book I didn't tell

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him he was like oh do you know a lot

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about Mitch you know a lot about mention

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talks on his YouTube and his kabalian

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um stuff but I I don't have any of his

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books so it was kind of funny that he

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asked me to introduce him

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you know

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um after in the right after I ordered

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the book which I was not I was not

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expecting because to me I'm just here to

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like lift other people up and hear other

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people's stories and and listen to like

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amazing authors about why they're doing

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what they're doing so

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um that was kind of a cool synchronicity

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but watching everybody just like she

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said there's a lot of science involved

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um I definitely think that Dr Sean and

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Tim were like our super ultra Science

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Guy and then we had Darren just

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exploring your subconscious and the

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links and that made you like go super

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deep and then we had like Mitch pumping

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up the audience and Gary just like Gary

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just ended on some beautiful like

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thoughts like how should we approach

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people do you know what I mean um we

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have to remember to relax and take it

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baby steps because we also had to

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present this not only to each other but

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to people in the science community that

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expect to hear a certain language

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so I see a lot of great things happening

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with the Dr Sean espier and hargens

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because he has all this amazing stuff

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planned and he covers everything from

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your your etheric body to like science

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it's he's he's amazing

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yeah I was looking at his uh sorry go

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ahead he had arguably the coolest name

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of any of the presenters that took me

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forever to learn how to say and not mess

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up my goodness I was like behind I was

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like the whole wake up just in case I

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had to talk to him Dr esperan Hawkins I

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just like said it like nine times and

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then finally he's like she's telling me

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he's like call me Shaw and I was like oh

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that freaking out

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I'm gonna be Dr Stone someday go ahead

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oh my gosh well yeah his uh I was

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impressed by his uh slide deck and I

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know on one of his slides he like you

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said he he's covering so many

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disciplines and modalities experiences

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very ambitious uh work that he's setting

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out to do

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yeah and he got some like sorry no go

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ahead man please he got some like

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I feel like he was getting encouraged by

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Gary in one of the studies he was

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planning on doing because Gary kept

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saying you know Sean's work Shawn's work

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Sean could do that with his study Sean

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because you know his Gary's kind of like

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in his Lane right now and he feels like

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that's where he you know where he's

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going to be able to do the most for the

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movement and for disclosure and him and

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his career so he kept pointing out Sean

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and I'm like oh my goodness like

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like yes more people need to be aware of

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him because I don't hear about him

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enough

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yeah um and you know

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I wasn't going to ask us but is this the

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most emotional that you've been since I

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called you on the phone just kidding you

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don't have to answer that

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um what is the is this uh was there one

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thing that that one of the speakers said

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that was the most provocative in terms

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of thought uh or one one presentation

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amongst them that that you felt and it

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could have even been at dinner you know

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re-rotating that one too yeah I want but

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I'd like to hear that okay absolutely

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both of you yes ma'am okay well see I

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feel like again there was like this

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underlying theme that was happening that

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was getting mentioned in different ways

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um and that I actually took away

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um from the whole thing and that

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underlying theme was what is reality

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right that was coming up in different

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ways

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um

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and in fact I'm going to call him Dr

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Sean because I'm not even going to try

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that last name but Dr Shawn's yes

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man yeah that that multiple body concept

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was so validating for a lot of us you

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know a lot of us have already touched on

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this

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um idea that we don't understand reality

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you know and it actually kind of

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inspires me more for us to talk to

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Hoffman about what is reality and you

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know I took perception and um

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you know back in my psychology undergrad

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and

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um I feel like that was a really

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hardcore class and

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I feel like I want to take it all over

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again because of this you know it was so

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interesting to think about

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so yeah that the reality the nature of

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Reality Part that's the part that really

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stuck with me the most

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I'm so glad uh Nathan I think said to me

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did I mic switch it it did look like it

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took over uh someone that had switched

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from this mic to the uh airpods so thank

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you for that yeah Priscilla what uh what

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about you yeah to that question yes

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ma'am

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I think every speaker had something

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um in their own way that kind of really

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made me feel like overwhelmed in a good

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way

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um

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the thing that I noticed like walking

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away from it was

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the reinforcement of the thought that

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it's going to take

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every Camp available to solve or to even

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begin to understand

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the phenomenon phenomena because it's

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more than they one thing happening

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um it's all the Unseen and all the

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things we don't understand but it's

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going to take everybody so to me

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I kind of had the reinforcement of that

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and then also the um

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the urge to do better especially after

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um Gary's talk and Mitch's talk they

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were both kind of like we have to do

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better you know and you have to do this

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um in a way that you can speak to many

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people about it because Gary was talking

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about talking to scientists and Mitch

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kind of highlighted like

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um the Skeptics like

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you want us to do better but you need to

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hold yourself to that standard as well

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so

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um the need to do better and to help

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people realize that it is connected in

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one way or another it's going to take

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everybody's discipline and knowledge to

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do this to to raise more awareness to

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understand it and to experience whatever

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the phenomena presents on because we had

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somebody talking about

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um a haunted road

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you know and

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a lot of people will experience Spirits

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Sasquatch and the UFO phenomenon in like

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desolate places so is it the land that's

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causing this

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um but yeah I think that I I can't pick

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one thing honestly

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I'll say one thing about Bigfoot now

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that there's reports from 49 of 50

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states I don't think it's localized from

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that standpoint that's something I was

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not aware of until like I Nathan got me

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on this uh maybe on I don't think he

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knew I was going to dive this deep into

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it as I have uh but I would ask you this

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question Priscilla

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um and if you know what Nathan are we

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ready to go into the fireside chat

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aspect yeah of this and just start going

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around let's do it okay I'm going to

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start with Priscilla go to Debs and

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yourself

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um

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for so in terms of an understanding that

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you said this Collective you know we

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need this uh collectivity in order to to

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to gain that understanding would you say

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uh that we are at the beginning of

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understanding you know and I'm I'm

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saying this because you're an

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experiencer and you know a lot of

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experiencers as well and have spoken

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with many of them would you say that

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we're at the beginning of understanding

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is that a fair statement or do you think

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we're not there yet

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or we're past that one or the other

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I think we are all at the beginning I

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think we found the iceberg and we're on

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it I don't think that

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I think it's too deep right now

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I think that even those of us that had

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have have had like extremely

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um deep experiences and intense

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experiences and contact

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I think that you still don't know what's

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going on

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um and I think that it's kind of a

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cop-out when people just say they do

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because

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you're you're ending the conversation

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when you do that you know what I mean

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like we can go ahead we're all good hey

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ladies and gentlemen thanks for coming

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they're from they're from this uh solar

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system or you know they're they're from

448
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the star system the end and they're

449
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they're entering a portal in Russia at

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the end

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[Laughter]

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oh you don't understand you don't

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understand well we must be in different

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dimensions well thank you for checking

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in on me on Twitter my lowly self right

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so I don't know I just feel like we're

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at the very tip of it but I think more

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and more people like it's it's unusual

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like more and more people just like

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you're saying more and more Sasquatch

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are being seen more and more people

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are coming around to the thoughts of

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maybe not UFOs yet but uh paranormal

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like like Spirit experiences

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um look about look at how many people

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are doing like tarot cards for

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themselves now

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you know and it all started with oh a

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shiny Crystal you know what I mean and

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then from there it's just like oh wow

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there's this whole other world

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yeah no I encountered somebody at the

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gym uh that when she told me she was

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gonna go to a retreat in the Catskills

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and there was going to be uh crystals

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and healing and different sort of

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modalities that would resonate with with

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this group I was shocked uh because you

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know we make these sort of snap

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judgments about people and

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um she was a a member there and now

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she's actually a member of the staff and

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I just I was like you know striving like

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a porch SUV I'm like yeah so you make

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these judgments and it turns out I was

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wrong yeah she is into stuff like that

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like what we're into and so I felt a lot

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more connected to her when I knew that

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she was open to some of these things

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that I'm open to Debs uh are we at the

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beginning

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I think we're a little further in than

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that and I'll tell you why well yes

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we're we're near the beginning but we're

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not at the beginning so and this is why

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I think this

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um and actually this came up in the

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conference Mitch enthused the crowd when

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he said you know what I think we do have

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a paradigm shift right now in the middle

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of the conference everyone got really

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excited about that he's doing a lot of

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research on this so he's seeing this

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from kind of an academic perspective

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he's seeing a shift and then

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Psychology today they put out an article

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about reincarnation that's a shift right

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so

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oh and then you know there's just

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scientific research from Nolan right

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about

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um the possibility that there's an

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indicator in our bodies for some of

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these things like intuition

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that's a shift and it's getting taken

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more seriously so it's it's almost like

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yes we're kind of near the tip of the

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iceberg but people are starting to

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realize there's something underneath

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under the water

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and they're starting to pay attention

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and and I'll just say one final thing

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before we um let Nathan answer this the

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thing that's Dawning on me

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is a lot of things are losing stigma

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um we've talked about mental health

527
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we've talked about you know some changes

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that have happened for the lgbtq

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community

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um

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there the stigma is slowly fading away

532
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for this community as well and I think

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that's another shift and an extremely

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important one for us to make progress

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so

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uh you know in mathematically speaking

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Debs with the more I think what you're

538
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alluding to mathematic from a

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mathematical standpoint if more

540
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experiencers come out and talk about

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what's happened to them what's been said

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to them

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um what they've gleaned from it and just

544
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little the door opens a little wider so

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you would think but you know what Nathan

546
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you know shoot that down if you wish

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well I I want to recognize what um I

548
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think we've been kind of hitting on here

549
00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:05,360
and that's that

550
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,320
you asked kind of either the beginning

551
00:22:10,990 --> 00:22:09,360
or where are we but the part of this is

552
00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:11,000
the recognition that there's a problem

553
00:22:17,690 --> 00:22:14,280
and in my opinion in the 20th century

554
00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:17,700
what we really had is this shift from a

555
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:19,740
traditionalist religious sort of world

556
00:22:24,649 --> 00:22:22,260
view that many people had that gave

557
00:22:27,169 --> 00:22:24,659
their lives a lot of meaning and were

558
00:22:29,690 --> 00:22:27,179
able to fill in the gaps of our

559
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:29,700
understanding with these religious World

560
00:22:34,130 --> 00:22:31,679
Views and traditions and and Society

561
00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:34,140
kind of congealed around those ideas but

562
00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:36,600
then science came in and said okay

563
00:22:39,710 --> 00:22:37,860
here's what we're going to do we're

564
00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:39,720
going to shine a light on these sort of

565
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:41,820
dark corners of our awareness of our

566
00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:44,640
knowledge and we're going to bring some

567
00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:47,640
clarity to these areas that religion has

568
00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:51,000
occupied before so as science gained

569
00:22:56,990 --> 00:22:54,299
ground in explaining the world around us

570
00:22:58,850 --> 00:22:57,000
and had that explanatory power it's

571
00:23:01,310 --> 00:22:58,860
changed our lives in many many ways

572
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:01,320
we've seen folks in the 20th century and

573
00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:04,559
21st century shift away from those World

574
00:23:09,950 --> 00:23:07,080
Views Traditions understandings into

575
00:23:12,110 --> 00:23:09,960
looking at science as this source of

576
00:23:14,529 --> 00:23:12,120
meaning well the problem with that is

577
00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:14,539
that science at least in its uh

578
00:23:20,270 --> 00:23:17,580
materialist sort of perspective has

579
00:23:22,970 --> 00:23:20,280
failed us when it comes to this meaning

580
00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:22,980
problem and so I think everyone is

581
00:23:27,289 --> 00:23:24,840
looking around at each other and going

582
00:23:28,850 --> 00:23:27,299
well I we have all these great things

583
00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:28,860
look at all this cool stuff that we've

584
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,320
got that science has given us in in

585
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,360
medicine and technology and and

586
00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:34,559
everything you can you can see

587
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:36,539
everywhere right but but why do I feel

588
00:23:42,350 --> 00:23:39,600
so empty inside why do I not feel

589
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,360
connected to someone why can I not make

590
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:44,400
sense of this strange experience that I

591
00:23:48,649 --> 00:23:46,260
had or this experience that my mother

592
00:23:51,169 --> 00:23:48,659
had or you know you you we all have

593
00:23:52,909 --> 00:23:51,179
these anecdotes that that we've

594
00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:52,919
experienced and and they don't fit

595
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,760
inside the scientific Paradigm so we are

596
00:24:00,529 --> 00:23:58,320
now at this place where I think our

597
00:24:03,409 --> 00:24:00,539
culturally and societally we're we're

598
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:03,419
ready we're kind of primed in a way to

599
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,000
re-examine a lot of these things that

600
00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:07,919
have happened that have been part of our

601
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:10,620
human history and and get and redeem

602
00:24:15,049 --> 00:24:12,720
them but in A New Perspective it's not

603
00:24:17,090 --> 00:24:15,059
it's not discarding the scientific

604
00:24:19,549 --> 00:24:17,100
advances that we've made but it's

605
00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:19,559
looking at them from a new framework and

606
00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:21,299
looking at the old things which we have

607
00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:23,280
discarded and redeeming them bringing

608
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:28,380
them into a new model of reality that

609
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:30,840
has meaning that brings meaning back

610
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:33,780
into our culture and so for me I see

611
00:24:37,490 --> 00:24:36,480
this conversation of around the

612
00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:37,500
phenomena

613
00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:40,500
not not just about UFOs as that Gateway

614
00:24:47,930 --> 00:24:44,520
that doorway to making space

615
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:47,940
for experience and validating what we

616
00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:51,299
are going through and and in so doing it

617
00:24:54,289 --> 00:24:53,400
brings that meaning back into all of our

618
00:24:57,409 --> 00:24:54,299
lives

619
00:24:59,330 --> 00:24:57,419
and I think Dr Diana posoka would agree

620
00:25:02,450 --> 00:24:59,340
I think that's she shares that

621
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,460
hypothesis with you I believe

622
00:25:06,289 --> 00:25:04,320
um but do you but

623
00:25:07,970 --> 00:25:06,299
from the the central question do you

624
00:25:10,370 --> 00:25:07,980
feel like we are at least at the

625
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,380
beginning of understanding realizing

626
00:25:14,029 --> 00:25:12,000
that some of those Traditions are gonna

627
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,039
could and should and will be brought

628
00:25:17,090 --> 00:25:16,080
back into the fold but do you feel like

629
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,100
we're

630
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,440
you know the doors opening uh to to

631
00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:22,320
understanding of the phenomenon

632
00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:25,500
I do and if you look at uh the things

633
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,240
that Gary is saying and the Mitch is

634
00:25:31,789 --> 00:25:29,039
saying and and the things that Darren

635
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,799
brought up as well that our our

636
00:25:36,350 --> 00:25:33,840
scientific exploration is bumping up

637
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,360
against these boundaries these areas

638
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:39,360
which we we don't have answers and the

639
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:41,700
answers which we do have in fact are

640
00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:44,580
incredibly puzzling and and really shake

641
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:46,440
the foundations of what we all thought

642
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:49,440
to be true right so so in looking back

643
00:25:54,649 --> 00:25:52,559
at the past at these ancient Traditions

644
00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:54,659
what we're looking for there is the

645
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:56,820
wisdom in the Traditions the Insight the

646
00:26:03,409 --> 00:26:00,320
intuition that our four parents had

647
00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:03,419
about reality that we've lost right and

648
00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:04,860
we're saying maybe there was something

649
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,320
to that now what is that and and so and

650
00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:09,840
so what we're trying to find now you

651
00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:11,220
know and sure I do think we're at the

652
00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:12,659
beginning but we're at this place where

653
00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:14,700
we're now making space for

654
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,460
this conversation we're making it

655
00:26:21,529 --> 00:26:19,440
acceptable to talk about and in in in

656
00:26:24,409 --> 00:26:21,539
our academic communities and Gary said

657
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:24,419
this in his talk he said uh when after

658
00:26:29,090 --> 00:26:27,240
one after his talk and um I think it was

659
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:29,100
Michigan wherever he was before he got

660
00:26:32,810 --> 00:26:31,200
to New York he went to the after party

661
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:32,820
it was this very you know sort of

662
00:26:37,789 --> 00:26:34,559
academic you know

663
00:26:39,049 --> 00:26:37,799
very fancy schmancy uh dining thing and

664
00:26:42,049 --> 00:26:39,059
they were and all they wanted to talk

665
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,059
about was the phenomena so that tells

666
00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:44,700
you that that academics who are always

667
00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:46,860
so serious or whatnot have just as much

668
00:26:51,529 --> 00:26:49,260
of an interest as the layperson does but

669
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:51,539
they can't talk about it in public they

670
00:26:55,549 --> 00:26:52,740
need a safe place to have that

671
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,559
conversation but part of what we're as

672
00:26:59,210 --> 00:26:57,120
one person's going in the bathroom and

673
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:59,220
one's coming out exactly knock on the

674
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,720
door make sure that you know before you

675
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:02,640
yeah you got to but just as what we're

676
00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:05,580
trying to do here is better normalize

677
00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:08,520
the conversation that that's what Gary

678
00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:10,200
is doing you know and and when more

679
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:13,020
Gary's come forward with with a publicly

680
00:27:18,769 --> 00:27:15,720
expressed interest in this then that

681
00:27:21,289 --> 00:27:18,779
further lays the groundwork for a

682
00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:21,299
serious conversation about it and it

683
00:27:26,690 --> 00:27:23,700
opens up Avenues of Investigation right

684
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:26,700
so it's it's it leaves this realm of

685
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,000
just pure speculation because we we have

686
00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:31,919
very little data and it starts to move

687
00:27:38,169 --> 00:27:35,340
into Avenues of Investigation and where

688
00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:38,179
we can begin eliminating some of this

689
00:27:43,789 --> 00:27:41,059
speculative uh

690
00:27:45,529 --> 00:27:43,799
conception so I mean I think we're at

691
00:27:48,049 --> 00:27:45,539
the beginning but we're we've already

692
00:27:49,789 --> 00:27:48,059
passed the very first steps you know

693
00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:49,799
we're on we're on the path now is what I

694
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:51,299
would say

695
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:54,240
I like that how you see like we're on

696
00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:55,980
the iceberg but we're just now realizing

697
00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:58,140
their stuff underneath it and I do agree

698
00:28:02,029 --> 00:28:00,179
with the shifts I just think that it's

699
00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:02,039
bigger than we realize

700
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:02,820
um

701
00:28:07,970 --> 00:28:05,460
like I think it's even with like making

702
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:07,980
like the uh you know advances that

703
00:28:14,269 --> 00:28:10,559
people are starting to work towards I

704
00:28:16,250 --> 00:28:14,279
think that it's just so vast that you

705
00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:16,260
where it's just so big that even though

706
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,840
people are coming around I see it

707
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:20,880
being expansive beyond what we

708
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,500
understand

709
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:24,480
that's what's cool about it nobody wants

710
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,980
to put together a puzzle that has like

711
00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:28,320
seven pieces you know but if there's

712
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:30,360
like a thousand fifteen hundred pieces

713
00:28:35,870 --> 00:28:33,840
laying there hmm now I'm intrigued uh

714
00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:35,880
but all that said

715
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:36,659
um

716
00:28:42,409 --> 00:28:39,120
and yeah I mean more religious scholars

717
00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:42,419
in here not just Diana pasoka but uh you

718
00:28:46,909 --> 00:28:44,100
know you get more religious scholars in

719
00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:46,919
the fold uh more more Skeptics and by

720
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:50,340
the way all of UFO Twitter is is is part

721
00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:52,740
of why that door is is opening you know

722
00:28:56,570 --> 00:28:55,020
not just content creators but everyone

723
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,580
you see here in the chat and then the

724
00:29:00,890 --> 00:28:58,799
people they're on Twitter uh whether

725
00:29:02,990 --> 00:29:00,900
they're skeptical or not

726
00:29:06,649 --> 00:29:03,000
um Priscilla would you like to proceed

727
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,659
with your topic of the eve

728
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:08,640
I've been thinking about this I'm like

729
00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:10,799
what do I want to talk about today

730
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,260
um I think that I'm very curious now

731
00:29:17,930 --> 00:29:15,840
after meeting so many people uh what is

732
00:29:21,529 --> 00:29:17,940
your I mean

733
00:29:23,690 --> 00:29:21,539
I still am enamored by learning about

734
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:23,700
people's purpose and calling to this why

735
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:24,899
can't they

736
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:28,380
stop what keeps bringing them back

737
00:29:32,510 --> 00:29:30,539
you know what I mean that that's kind of

738
00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:32,520
what I wanted to ask you guys is like

739
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,380
you could be doing anything right now

740
00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:36,720
but you want to talk about this

741
00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:38,700
or you could be doing anything but we're

742
00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:40,020
trying to figure out our ways to get to

743
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:43,020
these you know conferences and and talk

744
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:44,880
about it as much as possible to as many

745
00:29:49,549 --> 00:29:47,220
people as possible or like like in Deb's

746
00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:49,559
instance just spending like hours on

747
00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:52,380
research and you know stuff like that

748
00:29:59,330 --> 00:29:55,980
what what is it that keeps people bound

749
00:30:03,889 --> 00:30:01,370
Debs it's you buddy

750
00:30:06,649 --> 00:30:03,899
okay so I definitely feel like for me

751
00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:06,659
there's multiple things uh you know

752
00:30:13,789 --> 00:30:10,740
there was an underlying interest of in

753
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:13,799
paranormal in general when I was younger

754
00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:16,140
um it's just so hard to not want to talk

755
00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:18,120
about that it's just so cool you know

756
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:22,260
but but as an older person who who

757
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:24,539
suddenly started working on UFOs I felt

758
00:30:29,450 --> 00:30:27,360
like I was driven it was like it was

759
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:29,460
like what Diana pasoka was saying it's

760
00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:31,500
sort of like a sudden calling it was

761
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:33,480
just out of the blue suddenly I just had

762
00:30:36,529 --> 00:30:35,520
to work on it

763
00:30:39,289 --> 00:30:36,539
um and then

764
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:39,299
there's so much there you know and it's

765
00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:42,000
just there's always more it's so giving

766
00:30:48,529 --> 00:30:44,760
it's and I feel like it's the story of

767
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:48,539
us and every time I uncover something

768
00:30:54,649 --> 00:30:50,760
else I'm uncovering more about being

769
00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:54,659
human or part of humanity

770
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:57,899
um so and that's extremely appealing to

771
00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:00,600
understand ourselves

772
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:03,240
um so I think that there's so much but

773
00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:05,760
that's a big part of it and and the only

774
00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:08,220
final thing is I do feel

775
00:31:12,350 --> 00:31:10,380
um pretty determined

776
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,360
um to help with the mental health part

777
00:31:16,490 --> 00:31:14,159
and I feel like

778
00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:16,500
the more I work on this the more I have

779
00:31:21,409 --> 00:31:19,020
a grasp of how to do that

780
00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:21,419
um so I won't I won't go into details on

781
00:31:24,529 --> 00:31:22,980
that right now but yes those are the

782
00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:24,539
reasons

783
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:26,820
yeah all right yeah so Deb has another

784
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:29,100
project going on about on about uh

785
00:31:33,649 --> 00:31:30,960
helping out with the mental health of

786
00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:33,659
individuals and uh I guess she will make

787
00:31:40,370 --> 00:31:37,260
that public when she's ready uh money

788
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,380
yeah I look at this from the standpoint

789
00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:43,440
of um what Humanity's been

790
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:46,020
interested in since the beginning

791
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:48,600
we've had these conversations

792
00:31:53,769 --> 00:31:51,360
uh quite literally around the fire since

793
00:31:57,370 --> 00:31:53,779
we were able to get together

794
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:57,380
and and cooperate right

795
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:01,440
whether they were experiences with a

796
00:32:06,169 --> 00:32:04,020
real phenomena that occurred in our in

797
00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:06,179
our waking States

798
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:08,220
you know oh I just encountered This

799
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:10,200
ferocious creature out there and I

800
00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:12,120
barely got away with my life so tomorrow

801
00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:14,580
maybe we should get together and sharpen

802
00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:16,020
some Spears and take care of this

803
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:18,600
problem otherwise you know we're not

804
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:21,840
going to be able to survive or maybe

805
00:32:27,649 --> 00:32:24,720
someone pulled up to that fire and said

806
00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:27,659
I had an experience with something I

807
00:32:33,169 --> 00:32:31,500
can't explain and uh I you know I you

808
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,179
haven't seen it and and I I can't

809
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:34,559
believe what I saw and this is what it

810
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:35,760
is and I'm trying to explain it to you

811
00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:37,140
it's but it's chain it's literally

812
00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:39,480
changing my life

813
00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:42,539
it's changing the way in which I treat

814
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:45,000
everyone that I encounter

815
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:46,260
it's changing the way I understand

816
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,760
myself

817
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:50,159
so these experiences

818
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,399
got translated into our great religious

819
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:55,679
traditions in many ways these insights

820
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:56,880
so we've always been kind of talking

821
00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:00,960
about this but we've in our modern State

822
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:02,580
we kind of look back and kind of

823
00:33:06,049 --> 00:33:04,200
categorize that

824
00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:06,059
that's okay well that's just this neat

825
00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:07,980
little bucket of Mythology that we've

826
00:33:12,649 --> 00:33:09,539
done here

827
00:33:14,169 --> 00:33:12,659
um so for me it's it's it's redeeming

828
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,179
again I'm using that word I used before

829
00:33:18,529 --> 00:33:16,380
redeeming things that we've always

830
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:18,539
talked about and bringing it into the

831
00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:21,600
current state of our experience and it's

832
00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:24,059
given me opportunity to connect with

833
00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:27,240
people to to listen to people to take

834
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,620
them seriously

835
00:33:33,049 --> 00:33:30,240
doesn't mean that I believe everything

836
00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:33,059
that they say but it sure is better it's

837
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:34,860
a better experience for me let's put it

838
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,200
this way it's a better lived experience

839
00:33:42,049 --> 00:33:39,600
for me to engage in that kind of

840
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:42,059
conversation or I am treating them like

841
00:33:45,950 --> 00:33:44,279
a person or I'm treating them seriously

842
00:33:47,630 --> 00:33:45,960
or I want to believe what they're

843
00:33:49,730 --> 00:33:47,640
telling me that's a much better

844
00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:49,740
experience than me going into that

845
00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:51,960
conversation and saying well you know I

846
00:33:55,789 --> 00:33:54,059
don't know if you knew about this but uh

847
00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:55,799
here's this other thing here that you

848
00:34:00,110 --> 00:33:57,779
might not be aware of and that totally

849
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,120
destroys what you just told me and uh

850
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,640
good luck go on your way I hope you can

851
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,559
figure that out now it's not to say that

852
00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:06,000
there isn't a place for that right

853
00:34:09,710 --> 00:34:07,860
because because there is there is a

854
00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:09,720
place for that conversation there are

855
00:34:15,169 --> 00:34:11,460
people who do believe things that that

856
00:34:17,329 --> 00:34:15,179
are quite frankly not true and it and it

857
00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:17,339
is harming them it's harming the way in

858
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:19,859
which they interact with other people

859
00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:21,419
and the way they interact with the world

860
00:34:25,490 --> 00:34:23,339
and so if you're in a position to have

861
00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:25,500
that conversation I think you have some

862
00:34:29,629 --> 00:34:28,020
level of responsibility to try to you

863
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:29,639
know sort of guide the them out of that

864
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,040
into a healthier way of relating so

865
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,200
in short it's it's it for me it's

866
00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:39,599
deepening the experience that I have of

867
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:41,940
life and it's giving me that opportunity

868
00:34:47,089 --> 00:34:44,879
to do that and before I live plenty of

869
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,099
years and and discarded all this stuff

870
00:34:52,369 --> 00:34:49,919
and quite frankly was kind of

871
00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:52,379
not nearly as happy and you know life

872
00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:02,210
yeah I was going to say hi uh hi Julie

873
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:04,859
uh thank you random for telling people

874
00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:06,720
to hit the like button we don't do

875
00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:09,720
enough of that on this show we don't you

876
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:12,180
know have the you know the uh

877
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,460
patreon stuff and the Super Chat stuff

878
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:16,560
but we will get some of your questions

879
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,380
when we go around the horn if we can

880
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:21,599
thank you Julie well said money is what

881
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:24,960
Julie said it is well said and and uh it

882
00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:27,599
is transformative uh Priscilla an answer

883
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:30,900
to your question as to why

884
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:31,500
um

885
00:35:37,849 --> 00:35:34,880
you know if Nathan and Debs and yourself

886
00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:37,859
and I look at the the people that we

887
00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:40,740
were before we started creating content

888
00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:43,320
and not having this conversation with

889
00:35:48,109 --> 00:35:46,140
very select private people in our lives

890
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:48,119
whom we knew would not judge us

891
00:35:54,290 --> 00:35:52,140
negatively or wouldn't affect our either

892
00:35:58,010 --> 00:35:54,300
our well-being or our financial security

893
00:36:00,530 --> 00:35:58,020
negatively uh to where we are now where

894
00:36:02,990 --> 00:36:00,540
Nathan's being invited on a whole bunch

895
00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:03,000
of shows to speak to ask about his

896
00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:05,220
opinion on this topic you are Priscilla

897
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:08,700
Deb is you know a couple of Unfortunate

898
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,980
Souls have invited me on their show I

899
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:12,960
probably regretted it

900
00:36:17,390 --> 00:36:15,060
um you know but that's okay they still

901
00:36:20,569 --> 00:36:17,400
like me but in in answer to your

902
00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:20,579
question is uh why well there's not a

903
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:22,380
more interesting topic that you could

904
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,200
talk about other than is something that

905
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:27,359
we don't know I mentioned the 1500 piece

906
00:36:33,950 --> 00:36:30,660
puzzle this fits directly into that it's

907
00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:33,960
something that we may die never knowing

908
00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:35,940
a whole lot more than we do now maybe we

909
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,220
will though because now mathematically

910
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:40,560
speaking more people are coming out and

911
00:36:45,950 --> 00:36:43,200
talking about their experiences perhaps

912
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:45,960
there's been an uptick in experiences as

913
00:36:50,569 --> 00:36:48,420
well that will lend itself to more

914
00:36:52,849 --> 00:36:50,579
information being given to guys like

915
00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:52,859
Darren who had one inexplicable

916
00:36:56,990 --> 00:36:54,900
experience and then none and now all of

917
00:36:59,690 --> 00:36:57,000
a sudden he's having downloads on the

918
00:37:01,790 --> 00:36:59,700
regular uh folks like the young lady we

919
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,800
had on the other night amazing lady

920
00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:03,839
Linda Thompson you know who's been

921
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:05,660
having experience since she was a child

922
00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:09,180
uh and is five generations in her family

923
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:13,500
now are having them so that adds the

924
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,619
odds are great that we'll get a better

925
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:18,960
understanding of what's going on so what

926
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:20,460
else would I want to talk about which is

927
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,460
why as Nathan well knows when I ask him

928
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:24,960
to come on the show with me I said I'm

929
00:37:29,569 --> 00:37:27,119
not going to be talking MMA anymore I

930
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:29,579
want to talk about the phenomenon and

931
00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:32,280
I'm and I started a show and I want to

932
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:35,460
have you be part of it and now what

933
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:37,920
could be better you know like I couldn't

934
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:39,420
imagine that it would have turned out

935
00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:42,960
this well uh and a topic that is

936
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:45,480
more interesting to me than the UFC with

937
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:47,579
all apologies to the fighter friends I

938
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:49,200
got out there

939
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,079
um and now with this whole now I've dove

940
00:37:57,770 --> 00:37:54,480
into this entire Sasquatch Bigfoot

941
00:38:00,530 --> 00:37:57,780
phenomenon of which I was wholly unaware

942
00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:00,540
wholly unaware that this wasn't a couple

943
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:02,940
creatures running around the North Woods

944
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,240
of California and Oregon and Washington

945
00:38:11,630 --> 00:38:09,599
and finding out they're 11 miles from my

946
00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:11,640
hometown in New York they're here in

947
00:38:15,170 --> 00:38:13,500
Florida they're in South Florida they're

948
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:15,180
in Central Florida in the Ocala National

949
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:17,760
Forest they're in North Carolina where

950
00:38:23,569 --> 00:38:20,760
Nathan basically lives on the on the

951
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:23,579
edge close to the Miska force of of of

952
00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:25,380
the Bigfoot belt here in the United

953
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:29,160
States Alabama uh which is what uh 20

954
00:38:36,290 --> 00:38:32,760
you know 25 30 miles north of me uh is

955
00:38:39,530 --> 00:38:36,300
Alabama all over the place so

956
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:39,540
so yeah uh and so now there's a whole

957
00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:41,160
other thing that we can just add into

958
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:43,500
the show to try to figure out you know

959
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,060
another thing the government's covering

960
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:47,760
up so because they don't want people to

961
00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:49,380
not go in the woods and not hunt and not

962
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,060
go to national parks and not go to state

963
00:38:55,849 --> 00:38:53,280
parks and you know people would be

964
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:55,859
scared of going in the woods so

965
00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:57,480
um we'll get more into that but that's

966
00:39:01,550 --> 00:38:58,920
why I can't think of a more interesting

967
00:39:04,970 --> 00:39:01,560
topic to talk about

968
00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:04,980
yes no the whole phenomenon wrote large

969
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:07,500
no I was being serious I was being

970
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,300
serious because I when I lived in Alaska

971
00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:12,240
like I had my baby out there camping I

972
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,700
had I was pregnant camping and so I

973
00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:16,560
found out I was pregnant and we had a

974
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:19,619
camping trip planned to Wonder Lake in

975
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:21,300
the middle of Denali National Park and I

976
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:22,800
Wonder Lake you have to book this like a

977
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,260
year in advance at least six months you

978
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:27,359
know it's a beautiful spot you can only

979
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,180
go there on their um on their buses

980
00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:32,640
and it's known to you'll see bear you'll

981
00:39:37,069 --> 00:39:34,380
see moose you'll see these Caribou that

982
00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:37,079
are ridiculously like they're just so

983
00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:38,820
Majestic

984
00:39:43,790 --> 00:39:40,260
um but not

985
00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:43,800
I never thought about uh Bigfoot Wells

986
00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:45,300
out there

987
00:39:50,329 --> 00:39:48,540
it's super weird you know I I just I

988
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:50,339
never thought about Sasquatch

989
00:39:54,170 --> 00:39:51,900
um I was

990
00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:54,180
Alaska was like just magical in general

991
00:40:00,829 --> 00:39:57,780
so I had spiritual experiences but

992
00:40:02,990 --> 00:40:00,839
um the most even the most ET type or

993
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:03,000
unexplained like phenomena type thing

994
00:40:06,589 --> 00:40:05,040
was orbs and that and it wasn't even

995
00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:06,599
anything

996
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:09,839
uh that serious I mean I was I was

997
00:40:15,170 --> 00:40:11,820
sleeping outside sometimes without like

998
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:15,180
without even a tent like so

999
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:16,500
I would think like if I would have known

1000
00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:18,900
a lot about Sasquatch or met um or red

1001
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:21,060
you know about the Alaska triangle too

1002
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,079
much I might not have been doing that

1003
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,960
but but I enjoyed it it would have

1004
00:40:29,329 --> 00:40:27,599
changed I mean everybody here knows I

1005
00:40:31,849 --> 00:40:29,339
think everybody here knows that I spend

1006
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,859
a lot of my free time in the forest and

1007
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,839
I've done that since I was a kid it's my

1008
00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:35,280
favorite place to be

1009
00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:37,560
would that have changed if I would have

1010
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:40,380
known that 11 miles from my house near

1011
00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:42,480
Peekskill New York in Somers New York

1012
00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:44,760
that not only a police officer but two

1013
00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:48,180
fish fishermen had Bigfoot sightings uh

1014
00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:49,560
yeah that might have scared the hell out

1015
00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:51,180
of me as far as because I went out in

1016
00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:54,060
the woods alone as a lot of kids did in

1017
00:40:58,970 --> 00:40:57,180
the in the 70s when I was a child

1018
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,980
um my parents were not worried about me

1019
00:41:03,530 --> 00:41:01,200
go being gone in the woods all day by

1020
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:03,540
myself in fact they packed me a lunch

1021
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:06,540
I'd take my horse and my dog and we

1022
00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:08,400
would just go sometimes we would just

1023
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:10,020
all hike and I wouldn't even bring a

1024
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,520
saddle for the horse we would just all

1025
00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:13,440
three of us walk I would literally stuff

1026
00:41:19,609 --> 00:41:16,859
a backpack with hay some dog food in a

1027
00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:19,619
ziplock bag and a thermos of soup for me

1028
00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:21,240
and off we'd go

1029
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,220
so I didn't know you know that there

1030
00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:25,200
could be something out there

1031
00:41:30,109 --> 00:41:28,260
um that uh like that but hey hey Dave

1032
00:41:32,210 --> 00:41:30,119
Smathers welcome brother thank you for

1033
00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:32,220
coming in Bob Marley thank you I'd R

1034
00:41:34,490 --> 00:41:33,660
Iman

1035
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:34,500
um

1036
00:41:42,650 --> 00:41:40,079
you know what now you have a whole new

1037
00:41:45,050 --> 00:41:42,660
thing to dig into Priscilla that's good

1038
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:45,060
my goodness when you listen to some of

1039
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,560
these podcasts it's gonna blow your mind

1040
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,240
I listened to a few that you sent me and

1041
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:50,640
I was just like

1042
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:53,520
but there you have to think about sorry

1043
00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:55,560
my voice is all weird you have to think

1044
00:41:58,430 --> 00:41:57,240
about it in this way like we are never

1045
00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:58,440
alone

1046
00:42:03,890 --> 00:42:01,920
we um just growing up with a medium as a

1047
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,900
grandmother and being having mediumship

1048
00:42:09,650 --> 00:42:06,000
capabilities myself

1049
00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:09,660
like I and I just think all the time and

1050
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:12,839
I tell people like you are embedded in

1051
00:42:16,609 --> 00:42:15,119
like so many realities and there's if

1052
00:42:19,069 --> 00:42:16,619
you could see the amount of spirits

1053
00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:19,079
around you and beings around you

1054
00:42:22,490 --> 00:42:21,300
you would feel crowded

1055
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:22,500
you know

1056
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,040
um so it doesn't surprise me that

1057
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,599
Sasquatch is out there

1058
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:29,760
but it also doesn't surprise me that

1059
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:32,820
there is other like ethereal beings and

1060
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:36,060
Elementals such as Fae which uh Dr Sean

1061
00:42:41,569 --> 00:42:39,900
touched on and that's I did have

1062
00:42:43,609 --> 00:42:41,579
um Elemental experiences while I was in

1063
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:43,619
Alaska with like more nature type stuff

1064
00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:45,000
but um

1065
00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:47,400
it doesn't surprise me it's it's Eerie

1066
00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:49,560
in a way to to think about like you're

1067
00:42:52,930 --> 00:42:51,180
never alone

1068
00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:52,940
even when you feel alone

1069
00:42:57,470 --> 00:42:55,859
but at the same time when you actually

1070
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:57,480
feel alone you're like where are they

1071
00:43:01,790 --> 00:43:00,420
where where where's Sasquatch where's my

1072
00:43:03,230 --> 00:43:01,800
guides you know

1073
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:03,240
um where are all these amazing and

1074
00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:04,500
beautiful things and a friend just

1075
00:43:08,089 --> 00:43:06,660
messaged me today she said hey like I

1076
00:43:09,530 --> 00:43:08,099
haven't had any experiences in a long

1077
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,540
time

1078
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:11,280
doing what is going on like I normally

1079
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:12,319
have

1080
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:15,480
experiences I just issues was like a

1081
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:17,460
meditating thing she wanted to have some

1082
00:43:21,170 --> 00:43:20,040
interdimensional experiences or any

1083
00:43:24,349 --> 00:43:21,180
experience

1084
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:24,359
you know and it was she has not received

1085
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:26,280
it and normally it's very active for her

1086
00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:27,599
so

1087
00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:29,099
um it's crazy to think about how this

1088
00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:30,359
Ebbs and flows especially with

1089
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:32,220
experiencers some people have

1090
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:33,660
visitations like their whole life like

1091
00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:35,460
you mentioned Linda

1092
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,119
um

1093
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:38,400
when I met her on your show

1094
00:43:43,250 --> 00:43:42,000
the first time I had no idea that that

1095
00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:43,260
was kind of just something that was

1096
00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:44,099
normal

1097
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:49,260
for experiencers and then

1098
00:43:52,670 --> 00:43:50,460
um then there's people that have like

1099
00:43:54,829 --> 00:43:52,680
you said the one experience

1100
00:43:56,450 --> 00:43:54,839
and they turn it into like their whole

1101
00:43:58,370 --> 00:43:56,460
life like um

1102
00:44:00,109 --> 00:43:58,380
the other oh my goodness his name's

1103
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,119
leaving me right now he's the Mantis oh

1104
00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:01,920
he has no he has a podcast here why is

1105
00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:04,980
it Stuart Davis Stuart Davis the way

1106
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:07,140
he's turned that into something

1107
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,780
you know so big

1108
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:11,520
um for spreading awareness and an

1109
00:44:14,809 --> 00:44:13,020
experience and everything he writes

1110
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,819
music about it you know

1111
00:44:18,170 --> 00:44:16,319
um but I didn't realize that was an

1112
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:18,180
isolated experience I thought he was

1113
00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:19,380
hanging out with my kids all the time

1114
00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:21,240
and then when I looked into his story I

1115
00:44:24,410 --> 00:44:22,740
was like wow

1116
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,420
so you can't and this is another

1117
00:44:28,430 --> 00:44:26,880
reminder not to downplay what you're

1118
00:44:29,930 --> 00:44:28,440
experiencing

1119
00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:29,940
because you might be like oh that was

1120
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:33,060
like a 30 second like flyby of an orb

1121
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:34,319
it didn't do anything I didn't feel

1122
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:35,280
anything

1123
00:44:39,470 --> 00:44:38,040
but how do you know we look up to you uh

1124
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,480
people like Nathan and myself because

1125
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,000
it's not happening to us uh they may be

1126
00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:43,920
there we just don't we don't feel them

1127
00:44:49,609 --> 00:44:46,980
or see them uh my only thing that I feel

1128
00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:49,619
is what other people feel but I don't I

1129
00:44:54,589 --> 00:44:52,380
can't see these things but but you know

1130
00:44:57,050 --> 00:44:54,599
what that's okay I mean every it takes a

1131
00:44:59,089 --> 00:44:57,060
lot of different types of people to uh

1132
00:45:01,250 --> 00:44:59,099
to make it go around

1133
00:45:02,690 --> 00:45:01,260
so you're gonna get a Sasquatch

1134
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:02,700
visitation

1135
00:45:07,309 --> 00:45:05,760
well you know I mean you've been since I

1136
00:45:09,470 --> 00:45:07,319
met you you've been on a Sasquatch thing

1137
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:09,480
so that's been it's not like I've known

1138
00:45:13,130 --> 00:45:11,640
you forever but I'm like man this guy's

1139
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,140
like I don't want to deal with Sasquatch

1140
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,359
but I can't stop talking about it well

1141
00:45:21,230 --> 00:45:17,520
Nate Nathan really is responsible for me

1142
00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:21,240
going this deep by introducing uh one

1143
00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:22,980
podcast and then it came to a couple

1144
00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:25,260
three or more but and I've as I've told

1145
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:27,060
Deb Deb and I were speaking before you

1146
00:45:32,450 --> 00:45:30,180
and Nathan came on and I'm I've listened

1147
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:32,460
to dozens of different investigators and

1148
00:45:37,970 --> 00:45:35,760
researchers male and female young and

1149
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:37,980
and older some of these women are you

1150
00:45:42,109 --> 00:45:39,839
know in their 60s that are going out

1151
00:45:44,089 --> 00:45:42,119
there in the woods doing this and I've

1152
00:45:46,609 --> 00:45:44,099
learned something from each one that I

1153
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,619
can just write into my little Journal of

1154
00:45:52,609 --> 00:45:49,440
how I want to go about this so my idea

1155
00:45:55,309 --> 00:45:52,619
uh be it my idea is just to go out there

1156
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,319
and be authentic uh my intention is what

1157
00:45:59,690 --> 00:45:57,599
it is I don't need you know although I'm

1158
00:46:02,089 --> 00:45:59,700
I have weapons you know I'm not bringing

1159
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:02,099
a weapon and I'm not stalking and I'm

1160
00:46:07,730 --> 00:46:05,220
not hunting I'm I'm simply going to go

1161
00:46:09,530 --> 00:46:07,740
and and if it comes down to it obviously

1162
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,540
I'm going to be terrified like any any

1163
00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:11,520
other human being but I'm going out

1164
00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:13,380
there with my intention and and I think

1165
00:46:19,069 --> 00:46:15,960
that'll be the best possible scenario

1166
00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:19,079
for me come what may

1167
00:46:23,089 --> 00:46:20,700
um and I have a group together like I

1168
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,099
said we're we're making plans for a

1169
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:25,440
couple different jaunts to uh Julie's

1170
00:46:30,770 --> 00:46:27,720
helping us out Julie Julie's uh seen

1171
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,780
Sasquatch at the end of her street uh in

1172
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,880
a meadow picking uh berries when she was

1173
00:46:37,370 --> 00:46:35,040
growing up in Indiana so she's got some

1174
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,380
experience she can remote view she's

1175
00:46:42,770 --> 00:46:39,599
helping us and hopefully we're gonna

1176
00:46:44,569 --> 00:46:42,780
find a good place to camp and then let

1177
00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:44,579
the experience come to us rather than

1178
00:46:50,569 --> 00:46:46,980
trying to

1179
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:50,579
stock hunt that sort of thing uh Nathan

1180
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:53,220
sir uh would you proceed with your your

1181
00:46:57,710 --> 00:46:56,400
uh yeah I think uh We've we've touched

1182
00:46:59,569 --> 00:46:57,720
around this a little bit

1183
00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:59,579
um in the conference I think highlighted

1184
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:01,380
this Priscilla in particular the way

1185
00:47:06,770 --> 00:47:03,660
that you opened the conference with

1186
00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:06,780
the group meditation moment uh which so

1187
00:47:12,770 --> 00:47:10,020
many people found to be very powerful

1188
00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:12,780
um so we have different ways of of

1189
00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:16,680
knowing of learning we have our kind of

1190
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:18,900
left brain way that we're all used to

1191
00:47:24,109 --> 00:47:21,660
that kind of classroom style academic

1192
00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:24,119
lecture and then we have that Stillness

1193
00:47:32,329 --> 00:47:28,260
time that uh quiet knowing that an

1194
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,339
intuitive way of understanding uh

1195
00:47:37,550 --> 00:47:35,040
I think everyone in this room

1196
00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:37,560
has had both of those experiences you

1197
00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:40,560
know how do you

1198
00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:43,140
relate with knowledge in each of those

1199
00:47:49,250 --> 00:47:46,440
modes of you know of learning like how

1200
00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:49,260
do you uh incorporate your learnings

1201
00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:52,680
from each of those ways

1202
00:47:55,609 --> 00:47:54,420
and and I'll start with Deb because I

1203
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,619
haven't heard her talk in a little bit

1204
00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:57,359
so I'd like to hear her speak to this

1205
00:48:02,809 --> 00:48:00,780
well you know I think for me it's just

1206
00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:02,819
an understanding when other people touch

1207
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:05,819
on the same thing for instance

1208
00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:07,980
um I don't talk about it that much but

1209
00:48:12,650 --> 00:48:10,140
I've done actually a fair amount of

1210
00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:12,660
creative things

1211
00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:16,140
um drawing painting I even made things

1212
00:48:21,050 --> 00:48:18,180
out of present and carved and things

1213
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:21,060
like that into resin I made a lot of

1214
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:23,160
jewelry things like that

1215
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,440
um and I feel like when other people

1216
00:48:30,050 --> 00:48:28,319
talk about like that that sense of

1217
00:48:31,730 --> 00:48:30,060
tapping into somewhere else while

1218
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:31,740
they're doing that work I have a sense

1219
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:34,319
of understanding you know so I feel like

1220
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:37,920
it helps me to have those conversations

1221
00:48:43,550 --> 00:48:40,920
um when I engage in different ways

1222
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,560
um I do think everyone kind of learns in

1223
00:48:48,290 --> 00:48:45,359
different ways and brings their own

1224
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,300
piece so the conversation

1225
00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:49,680
um but the ways that I've learned that's

1226
00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:51,420
what it does for me it just helps me to

1227
00:49:01,370 --> 00:48:58,730
well and let me let me let me just

1228
00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:01,380
follow up with you on one so uh you

1229
00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:03,060
talked about the art side of it what

1230
00:49:07,490 --> 00:49:05,640
about the the kind of classroom style or

1231
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:07,500
the book knowledge which I know you you

1232
00:49:13,609 --> 00:49:10,500
do quite a bit of uh you love that part

1233
00:49:15,650 --> 00:49:13,619
right so so yeah how do you there are

1234
00:49:19,069 --> 00:49:15,660
things which we learn through that

1235
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:19,079
process that we recognize as meaningful

1236
00:49:22,430 --> 00:49:20,940
and true and valid and there are things

1237
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,440
which we learn through the other process

1238
00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:24,480
that you just articulated

1239
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:27,060
you know how do you do you gravitate to

1240
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:33,770
I think I like to look for the summary

1241
00:49:38,089 --> 00:49:35,460
you like you know I mentioned that

1242
00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:38,099
earlier I just like to find the point

1243
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:41,700
you know I I like to find even when I

1244
00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:43,380
read an article I'm like okay the whole

1245
00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:46,260
point of this was you know like I just

1246
00:49:53,210 --> 00:49:49,740
want to like get to the point so

1247
00:49:56,809 --> 00:49:53,220
um for those who are not aware I wrote

1248
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,819
notes the entire conference every single

1249
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,319
person that was there I was sitting

1250
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:00,240
there writing notes

1251
00:50:04,809 --> 00:50:02,400
um so when I came to my summary it was

1252
00:50:07,609 --> 00:50:04,819
like after

1253
00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:07,619
pretty heavily attending to what was

1254
00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:09,420
being said

1255
00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:11,640
um so I I think that's just what happens

1256
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:13,500
with that um

1257
00:50:18,290 --> 00:50:16,079
I don't know if I'm gonna find like a

1258
00:50:20,569 --> 00:50:18,300
you know a here there or this is the

1259
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:20,579
answer to everything or anything like

1260
00:50:26,050 --> 00:50:23,220
that but I think that all of it gets me

1261
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:26,060
closer to my understanding at least

1262
00:50:30,829 --> 00:50:28,560
right I love that the way you're saying

1263
00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:30,839
that that synthesis synthesizing between

1264
00:50:36,250 --> 00:50:33,900
the two ways uh so what about you what

1265
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:36,260
do you what do you think about there

1266
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,119
it's it's hard to

1267
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,520
it's hard to bring it all into one thing

1268
00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:43,440
for me because

1269
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:45,180
I think that I talked to you about this

1270
00:50:48,049 --> 00:50:47,099
before Nathan behind the scenes oh first

1271
00:50:49,309 --> 00:50:48,059
of all I have to give a shout out to

1272
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:49,319
Kelly because the meditation think was

1273
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:51,000
her idea

1274
00:50:56,750 --> 00:50:54,720
um yeah Kelly Chase because and I was

1275
00:50:59,569 --> 00:50:56,760
like I just don't I don't know can I do

1276
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,579
it I just really wanna so she said yes

1277
00:51:03,770 --> 00:51:01,200
um but yeah anyways just want to give

1278
00:51:06,410 --> 00:51:03,780
her a shout out for being amazing but um

1279
00:51:09,530 --> 00:51:06,420
incorporating all this into like life

1280
00:51:11,809 --> 00:51:09,540
has not gone so smoothly for me

1281
00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:11,819
it's it's I want to show I want other

1282
00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:13,800
people to experience it

1283
00:51:17,809 --> 00:51:16,140
and to an extent I feel like I'm drawn

1284
00:51:19,849 --> 00:51:17,819
to have them experience it and help them

1285
00:51:22,130 --> 00:51:19,859
experience it like I took a whole

1286
00:51:25,970 --> 00:51:22,140
Priestess in class because I want

1287
00:51:26,809 --> 00:51:25,980
all the spiritual world and to

1288
00:51:30,349 --> 00:51:26,819
a

1289
00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:32,270
this is where

1290
00:51:36,589 --> 00:51:34,260
like because I've had my body feel like

1291
00:51:38,809 --> 00:51:36,599
it dissolved you know after even when I

1292
00:51:39,650 --> 00:51:38,819
read nuts and bolts type stuff as they

1293
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:39,660
say

1294
00:51:43,609 --> 00:51:40,319
um

1295
00:51:45,370 --> 00:51:43,619
I get lost in it I can't

1296
00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:45,380
I can't read something without

1297
00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:48,300
experiencing it

1298
00:51:52,609 --> 00:51:50,040
um and that's just maybe

1299
00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:52,619
how my body processes

1300
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:54,420
words that I'm reading and things that

1301
00:51:58,430 --> 00:51:56,220
I'm watching I have like a whole body

1302
00:52:01,130 --> 00:51:58,440
response to it

1303
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,140
so it's been hard for me to actually use

1304
00:52:04,490 --> 00:52:03,359
what I've been learning but I kind of

1305
00:52:07,730 --> 00:52:04,500
feel like

1306
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:07,740
I'm like storing it away it's like I'm

1307
00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:10,319
building this library and I don't I

1308
00:52:13,849 --> 00:52:12,540
might not need it now but I know I'm

1309
00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:13,859
gonna have it for somebody when they

1310
00:52:18,290 --> 00:52:16,260
need it and that's I haven't really

1311
00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:18,300
that's the best way I can answer that

1312
00:52:22,190 --> 00:52:20,579
what you brought up because it's hard to

1313
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,200
do it in real life right like I I

1314
00:52:26,569 --> 00:52:24,720
remember talking to you one time and I

1315
00:52:29,329 --> 00:52:26,579
was just like man like

1316
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,339
like I'm just supposed to like

1317
00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:31,680
it you have to have that separation and

1318
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:34,260
that balance between what I know or what

1319
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:35,760
I think I know is going on or what I've

1320
00:52:40,130 --> 00:52:38,400
experienced that's beyond just sitting

1321
00:52:42,290 --> 00:52:40,140
here at a desk right

1322
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,300
like we've experienced deeper realities

1323
00:52:46,970 --> 00:52:44,640
than that and how do you incorporate

1324
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,980
that into your life is it supposed to

1325
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:49,440
even be incorporated yet

1326
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:50,760
you know it's like you have this

1327
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,960
experience

1328
00:52:57,410 --> 00:52:53,760
and then you might have like years of

1329
00:53:00,109 --> 00:52:57,420
integration of just a small experience

1330
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,119
but I I just feel like I'm storing this

1331
00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:02,400
information for people I don't know any

1332
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:04,500
other way to explain it and it has to do

1333
00:53:08,930 --> 00:53:05,760
with their spirit

1334
00:53:10,130 --> 00:53:08,940
and them experiencing themselves as

1335
00:53:13,150 --> 00:53:10,140
spirit

1336
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:13,160
I know that sounds ultraboo but which so

1337
00:53:18,049 --> 00:53:16,200
there there it is

1338
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,059
you know one thing's interesting

1339
00:53:23,630 --> 00:53:20,880
Priscilla is that you're first of all

1340
00:53:25,309 --> 00:53:23,640
you know you you speak about well first

1341
00:53:27,470 --> 00:53:25,319
of all let me say hello to my brother

1342
00:53:30,170 --> 00:53:27,480
Johnny's in the chat he's my colleague

1343
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:30,180
he's also part of my uh Bigfoot research

1344
00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:33,420
team uh that that has yet to be named

1345
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,339
although I did come up with a name I'm

1346
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,960
gonna throw at him tomorrow what's up

1347
00:53:40,970 --> 00:53:38,400
Johnny

1348
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,980
um this is uh my homies Nathan Debs

1349
00:53:43,549 --> 00:53:42,480
Priscilla

1350
00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:43,559
um

1351
00:53:48,650 --> 00:53:47,220
Priscilla like you spoke how difficult

1352
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,660
was to grow up and say you know I'm

1353
00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:50,880
different I'm having these experiences

1354
00:53:55,849 --> 00:53:53,339
other people don't have I feel not

1355
00:53:59,089 --> 00:53:55,859
normal I feel weird I'm the weird girl

1356
00:54:01,069 --> 00:53:59,099
and as I've said to you

1357
00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:01,079
you know several months ago on the phone

1358
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:04,260
but now you've found your tribe if you

1359
00:54:09,470 --> 00:54:06,960
will is people who

1360
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:09,480
admire that that you're able to connect

1361
00:54:15,650 --> 00:54:12,000
with these things that uh we believe

1362
00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:15,660
happen and we can't connect with them

1363
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,640
um so that's you know that's one thing

1364
00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:19,440
the other thing is that you're living

1365
00:54:26,450 --> 00:54:22,680
two lives you are able to you have to at

1366
00:54:29,329 --> 00:54:26,460
one time be a normal mom who's raising

1367
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,339
children who's a wife

1368
00:54:34,370 --> 00:54:31,200
um whose husband you know serving

1369
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,380
country I'm not a very good wife guys

1370
00:54:38,930 --> 00:54:36,480
we don't believe that for a second and

1371
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:38,940
then he's still here but I mean

1372
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,520
I believe that for a second and then at

1373
00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:43,200
the same time

1374
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:45,540
um you're experiencing things and you

1375
00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:47,940
can't mix the two you can't take them in

1376
00:54:51,069 --> 00:54:49,380
this mixing bowl and then take the

1377
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:51,079
beater and go

1378
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:55,200
but can we can we no maybe I was reading

1379
00:54:57,710 --> 00:54:56,160
the boys

1380
00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:57,720
um Jeff cripple's book after I read

1381
00:54:59,870 --> 00:54:58,920
their Kitty books last night I was like

1382
00:55:01,010 --> 00:54:59,880
okay I'm gonna read my book and they're

1383
00:55:02,210 --> 00:55:01,020
like can you read it out loud and I'm

1384
00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:02,220
like

1385
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:04,980
super Humanities and I'm reading these

1386
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,020
these like Jeff crepel's most this

1387
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,599
powerful book it's powerful these words

1388
00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:12,000
are just like every 10 minutes I had to

1389
00:55:15,410 --> 00:55:13,559
like put it down or every few sentences

1390
00:55:16,329 --> 00:55:15,420
it has to put down just like yes

1391
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:16,339
yes

1392
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:19,440
when they talk to me I'm just kidding

1393
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,780
very similar experiences oh sorry I told

1394
00:55:25,849 --> 00:55:23,280
you I told you I was gonna laugh at your

1395
00:55:27,710 --> 00:55:25,859
jokes when I came on

1396
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,720
you know check if you don't

1397
00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:30,000
um but anyway but I mean like we have to

1398
00:55:34,910 --> 00:55:32,940
figure out how to right I mean yeah like

1399
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,920
we think think about all the people all

1400
00:55:39,049 --> 00:55:36,240
the work that people are doing now like

1401
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:39,059
Gary and Sean and and everybody that was

1402
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,500
at the conference like Mitch is writing

1403
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:42,000
I kept thinking like as each of them

1404
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,920
were speaking and it started when I met

1405
00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:45,599
red was reading Mitch's book I was like

1406
00:55:49,250 --> 00:55:47,400
I needed this as a child

1407
00:55:50,930 --> 00:55:49,260
because I was a weirdo people used to

1408
00:55:52,250 --> 00:55:50,940
call me Wednesday Adams in Catholic

1409
00:55:55,309 --> 00:55:52,260
School

1410
00:55:58,010 --> 00:55:55,319
you know now you're not I mean I could

1411
00:55:59,809 --> 00:55:58,020
be right I could just sleep great but

1412
00:56:02,089 --> 00:55:59,819
I'm just saying like we are going to be

1413
00:56:04,010 --> 00:56:02,099
there for that next wave coming through

1414
00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:04,020
and I don't mean that an ultimate

1415
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:06,660
Dolores Cannon like the next wave but I

1416
00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:09,240
do mean it as our children are a lot

1417
00:56:13,130 --> 00:56:11,160
different and

1418
00:56:15,650 --> 00:56:13,140
um they're growing up in a world where

1419
00:56:17,950 --> 00:56:15,660
UFOs have been acknowledged you know

1420
00:56:20,750 --> 00:56:17,960
paranormal is being studied seriously

1421
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:20,760
biology related to intuition is being

1422
00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:23,280
studied seriously

1423
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:25,740
um I'd say esp's being studying

1424
00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:27,000
seriously but that's been studied

1425
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:28,740
seriously for quite some time you know

1426
00:56:33,410 --> 00:56:30,960
we just need people to grasp it

1427
00:56:35,630 --> 00:56:33,420
so I I think that we need to find and

1428
00:56:37,549 --> 00:56:35,640
that we have to find a way right to mesh

1429
00:56:40,849 --> 00:56:37,559
it without like freaking people out too

1430
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,859
quickly you know there's going to be a

1431
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,480
12th grader who's going to reach out to

1432
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:44,640
you because cecila and you're going to

1433
00:56:50,030 --> 00:56:47,400
say damn it I was you you're going to be

1434
00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:50,040
okay trust me yeah but were you about to

1435
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,420
say that girl I'm sorry yeah I just

1436
00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:53,760
wanted to add that I feel like

1437
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,099
um I've I've spoke to Preston Dennett

1438
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:58,079
and he pointed out how often

1439
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,920
experiencers actually serve Humanity I

1440
00:57:06,770 --> 00:57:04,079
feel like um and I'm not saying this is

1441
00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:06,780
limited to experiences by any means of

1442
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:09,000
course it's also a part of the people

1443
00:57:14,210 --> 00:57:11,280
who investigate the phenomenon or

1444
00:57:17,569 --> 00:57:14,220
research it too but I feel like we find

1445
00:57:19,849 --> 00:57:17,579
ways to make it useful already you know

1446
00:57:20,770 --> 00:57:19,859
the people who have intuition are

1447
00:57:24,049 --> 00:57:20,780
probably

1448
00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:24,059
serving other people with that in some

1449
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:26,940
way I would hate to think that there's

1450
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:28,559
too many people who are just being

1451
00:57:32,049 --> 00:57:30,720
selfish with that gift

1452
00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:32,059
um

1453
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,420
what I know I've told Nathan what my

1454
00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:41,280
what I think my purpose is

1455
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,540
so

1456
00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:44,880
yeah and I

1457
00:57:48,349 --> 00:57:46,680
I want to touch beyond what you just

1458
00:57:49,250 --> 00:57:48,359
said there Deb because

1459
00:57:52,430 --> 00:57:49,260
um

1460
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:52,440
I do think that that is so true that the

1461
00:57:58,010 --> 00:57:55,680
experiencers have been

1462
00:58:01,370 --> 00:57:58,020
working with Humanity aiding Humanity in

1463
00:58:02,750 --> 00:58:01,380
a way for a very long time imagine a

1464
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:02,760
world where

1465
00:58:09,049 --> 00:58:06,480
you went about your day and you anyone

1466
00:58:11,569 --> 00:58:09,059
that had an experience that was outside

1467
00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:11,579
what we considered to be Norm

1468
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,740
you just said you know what

1469
00:58:16,609 --> 00:58:15,119
there's a little place where we're going

1470
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:16,619
to move you and we're never going to

1471
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,240
have to interact with you you know we're

1472
00:58:21,530 --> 00:58:19,680
going to move all of these people who

1473
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:21,540
have strange experiences

1474
00:58:25,730 --> 00:58:24,240
over to some other part of the world and

1475
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:25,740
we're not going to interact with you

1476
00:58:29,690 --> 00:58:28,079
because that doesn't those things aren't

1477
00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:29,700
real we're not going to deal with that

1478
00:58:34,250 --> 00:58:32,280
so imagine a world that looks like that

1479
00:58:36,170 --> 00:58:34,260
and I think you can't you know you can't

1480
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,180
you can't imagine a world where that

1481
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:38,400
would be the case nor would you want to

1482
00:58:44,809 --> 00:58:42,000
live in a world that is like that

1483
00:58:49,069 --> 00:58:44,819
um I would argue that it's these strange

1484
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,079
experiences that Force us into

1485
00:58:54,170 --> 00:58:51,599
different perspectives different ways of

1486
00:58:57,230 --> 00:58:54,180
thinking about our own experience

1487
00:59:01,609 --> 00:58:57,240
and and we are constantly

1488
00:59:03,650 --> 00:59:01,619
uh reshaping retelling the story of our

1489
00:59:06,589 --> 00:59:03,660
life right we're we're constantly

1490
00:59:09,410 --> 00:59:06,599
narrating re-narrating that story and

1491
00:59:10,609 --> 00:59:09,420
incorporating experiences into whatever

1492
00:59:12,289 --> 00:59:10,619
that is

1493
00:59:13,849 --> 00:59:12,299
and Priscilla you talked about you know

1494
00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:13,859
how you're just accumulating knowledge

1495
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,780
and you know eventually it may just come

1496
00:59:18,349 --> 00:59:17,040
out well

1497
00:59:21,289 --> 00:59:18,359
you know Darren and I've talked about

1498
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,299
this quite a bit as well that that we we

1499
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,280
have experience throughout our life

1500
00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:25,200
sometimes we have it and we have no

1501
00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:28,260
place to put it we have no place where

1502
00:59:32,089 --> 00:59:29,880
where it can fit so we've sort of put it

1503
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:32,099
on a shelf basically or a bucket back in

1504
00:59:35,870 --> 00:59:35,040
the corner of our mind but then years go

1505
00:59:38,270 --> 00:59:35,880
by

1506
00:59:40,730 --> 00:59:38,280
and something else happens and we when

1507
00:59:43,549 --> 00:59:40,740
we look back to that that thing that we

1508
00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:43,559
discarded and we say wait a second

1509
00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:47,160
this makes sense to me now this I can

1510
00:59:53,170 --> 00:59:50,040
now incorporate this new experience with

1511
00:59:56,329 --> 00:59:53,180
this old experience and and it actually

1512
00:59:57,410 --> 00:59:56,339
gains a greater level of power than it

1513
00:59:59,870 --> 00:59:57,420
had before

1514
01:00:01,849 --> 00:59:59,880
right so so I think experiencers are

1515
01:00:05,089 --> 01:00:01,859
doing this in a very relational way

1516
01:00:07,250 --> 01:00:05,099
right like meaning is relational it's

1517
01:00:09,289 --> 01:00:07,260
it's an it's a verb it's not a it's not

1518
01:00:13,370 --> 01:00:09,299
a noun you know it's a meaning is an

1519
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:15,829
yeah and I also

1520
01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:18,480
one thing I wanted to add too that that

1521
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,460
going back to what Priscilla said and

1522
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:21,839
then I'm going to answer Nathan's

1523
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:24,660
question and I'll I'll re restate the

1524
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:25,920
question and make sure I have it correct

1525
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,559
is connection is a whole nother thing I

1526
01:00:32,809 --> 01:00:31,200
think it ties into everything that the

1527
01:00:34,849 --> 01:00:32,819
four of us have been talking about or

1528
01:00:37,490 --> 01:00:34,859
that at least you and and Debs and

1529
01:00:39,410 --> 01:00:37,500
Nathan have been talking about is that

1530
01:00:43,130 --> 01:00:39,420
has been a happenstance that I did not

1531
01:00:45,890 --> 01:00:43,140
expect did not plan on had no in

1532
01:00:47,390 --> 01:00:45,900
necessarily an intention of when we

1533
01:00:49,789 --> 01:00:47,400
started the show was that we were going

1534
01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:49,799
to connect with these people from all

1535
01:00:53,809 --> 01:00:52,319
over the world and that we were going to

1536
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:53,819
become friends and that we were going to

1537
01:01:00,049 --> 01:00:56,400
meet in person and that uh and I think

1538
01:01:02,569 --> 01:01:00,059
everybody here knows that I like to

1539
01:01:05,450 --> 01:01:02,579
connect with people via phone all week

1540
01:01:09,710 --> 01:01:05,460
long as many phone calls as I can get

1541
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:09,720
into Davey or Dave or Frank or or

1542
01:01:15,770 --> 01:01:14,160
whomever or Debs Priscilla you know

1543
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:15,780
Nathan you know he's got me in the

1544
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:17,760
Corral there's only certain times I

1545
01:01:24,109 --> 01:01:21,599
could get them but like a cult but uh

1546
01:01:25,309 --> 01:01:24,119
but yeah it's just it's the pleasure of

1547
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:25,319
my life you know getting talked with

1548
01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:28,319
Linda uh you know I remember talking to

1549
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,940
Priscilla the first time driving home

1550
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:31,680
and then freaking out come telling these

1551
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:35,760
guys man this is amazing man shot his

1552
01:01:44,809 --> 01:01:39,359
cool experiences so yeah that's a that's

1553
01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:44,819
a a cool byproduct that probably is it

1554
01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:47,640
you know even if I gotten bored with the

1555
01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:49,799
conversation which I have not I would

1556
01:01:53,870 --> 01:01:52,500
still be here because of that uh but how

1557
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:53,880
could you get bored with something that

1558
01:01:59,210 --> 01:01:56,400
we may never figure out Nathan in terms

1559
01:02:01,250 --> 01:01:59,220
of your question yes please you said how

1560
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:01,260
do you in

1561
01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:06,960
learned from various people was that uh

1562
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:09,720
is that a summation and if not can you

1563
01:02:13,809 --> 01:02:11,760
restate the question

1564
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:13,819
yeah so

1565
01:02:23,170 --> 01:02:18,720
my question I think is how

1566
01:02:26,030 --> 01:02:23,180
how do we as individuals in a sort of

1567
01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:26,040
weigh on a scale the way in which we

1568
01:02:31,549 --> 01:02:28,680
acquire information sometimes we we

1569
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,559
acquire it through these these academic

1570
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:33,119
you know you're reading a book you're

1571
01:02:37,789 --> 01:02:34,920
getting a lecture sometimes we acquire

1572
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:37,799
it through an intuitive process a a

1573
01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:40,079
personal relationship where where we we

1574
01:02:45,049 --> 01:02:43,020
gain an Insight that quite frankly may

1575
01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:45,059
not have even been clearly articulated

1576
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:47,040
but we we feel it

1577
01:02:53,390 --> 01:02:50,220
right so how do we kind of weigh these

1578
01:02:54,829 --> 01:02:53,400
two ways of learning and I think

1579
01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:54,839
everyone has to answer that a little bit

1580
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:56,460
differently depending on your

1581
01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,160
personality some people place a Primacy

1582
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:01,680
on that felt

1583
01:03:07,250 --> 01:03:05,040
way of knowing of feeling something

1584
01:03:10,010 --> 01:03:07,260
feels right to me and they and they

1585
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:10,020
place a higher value on that than I read

1586
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:12,240
this in a book and therefore it it's

1587
01:03:17,630 --> 01:03:14,880
true it's true right yeah

1588
01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:17,640
all right so I mean in aviation we have

1589
01:03:24,349 --> 01:03:21,119
something that when we're feeding raw

1590
01:03:26,690 --> 01:03:24,359
analog data into a computer there'll be

1591
01:03:29,690 --> 01:03:26,700
like a Coleman filter on and that common

1592
01:03:32,349 --> 01:03:29,700
filter will give a certain value so that

1593
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:32,359
it doesn't overvalue a certain input

1594
01:03:38,030 --> 01:03:35,760
analog into this digital format so that

1595
01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:38,040
we can compute

1596
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:40,799
um when the airplane needs to climb over

1597
01:03:45,770 --> 01:03:42,960
a piece of terrain if we can't see

1598
01:03:46,970 --> 01:03:45,780
because if we can't see and there's a

1599
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,980
mountain in front of us we have to know

1600
01:03:50,809 --> 01:03:48,720
how much engine power we have that day

1601
01:03:53,569 --> 01:03:50,819
based on whether it's cold or hot what

1602
01:03:56,510 --> 01:03:53,579
the altitude is whether that engines

1603
01:03:59,210 --> 01:03:56,520
operating at 100 95 so there's these

1604
01:04:02,270 --> 01:03:59,220
Coleman filters so I feel like we apply

1605
01:04:04,270 --> 01:04:02,280
these column and filters based on

1606
01:04:07,609 --> 01:04:04,280
um people that we're listening to speak

1607
01:04:08,870 --> 01:04:07,619
and as you said everybody does it a

1608
01:04:11,150 --> 01:04:08,880
little bit differently it's very

1609
01:04:12,589 --> 01:04:11,160
individual you said you listen to a lot

1610
01:04:14,510 --> 01:04:12,599
of people you don't necessarily believe

1611
01:04:16,490 --> 01:04:14,520
everything you hear but you give the

1612
01:04:19,069 --> 01:04:16,500
respect to the person who's who's

1613
01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:19,079
telling you something that seems you

1614
01:04:22,970 --> 01:04:20,700
know may seem very fantastic to you

1615
01:04:25,130 --> 01:04:22,980
particularly because you haven't had an

1616
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:25,140
experience it may change if you do have

1617
01:04:29,630 --> 01:04:26,640
an experience you might see things in

1618
01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:29,640
different light so the way that I do it

1619
01:04:35,390 --> 01:04:32,579
is very organic I try to break

1620
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:35,400
everything down for the the most meat

1621
01:04:40,370 --> 01:04:37,680
headed among us because I am among the

1622
01:04:42,130 --> 01:04:40,380
most meat-headed so therefore I'll try

1623
01:04:45,049 --> 01:04:42,140
to as you know I'll try to simplify

1624
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:45,059
everything so that anybody can

1625
01:04:51,650 --> 01:04:47,700
understand it so when people you know

1626
01:04:54,589 --> 01:04:51,660
give me information I take it in and I

1627
01:04:56,930 --> 01:04:54,599
realize that my perspective is

1628
01:04:58,730 --> 01:04:56,940
constantly evolving and you guys know

1629
01:05:00,410 --> 01:04:58,740
that because you know what my

1630
01:05:02,089 --> 01:05:00,420
perspective was a year ago and you know

1631
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:02,099
what it is now and it's not the same as

1632
01:05:08,569 --> 01:05:06,000
it was because I had hypotheses that

1633
01:05:11,809 --> 01:05:08,579
were proven incorrect

1634
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:11,819
um and I've had to just keep opening my

1635
01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:14,880
aperture but at the same time there are

1636
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:18,599
people can uh give certain pieces of

1637
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:21,180
information with a surety that they

1638
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:24,240
can't possibly have

1639
01:05:30,170 --> 01:05:26,400
um because I don't know that anybody

1640
01:05:32,930 --> 01:05:30,180
Among Us can have that charity at this

1641
01:05:34,370 --> 01:05:32,940
point where Priscilla said we're at the

1642
01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:34,380
very beginning

1643
01:05:40,250 --> 01:05:37,520
but we're at the beginning we're not at

1644
01:05:43,490 --> 01:05:40,260
zero you know and then Nathan suggests

1645
01:05:45,650 --> 01:05:43,500
well maybe we our aperture was a lot

1646
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:45,660
further open when the pyramids were

1647
01:05:50,809 --> 01:05:47,220
being built and then went to zero and

1648
01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:50,819
now it's opening again so so

1649
01:05:55,069 --> 01:05:52,500
um so yeah that that's sort of how I do

1650
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:55,079
it it is it's it's organic it's not a

1651
01:06:01,010 --> 01:05:58,319
science it's inexact and I think you can

1652
01:06:04,849 --> 01:06:01,020
gain a lot from a lot of different

1653
01:06:08,030 --> 01:06:04,859
people and and you'll uh you'll wait

1654
01:06:08,809 --> 01:06:08,040
that information based on

1655
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:08,819
um

1656
01:06:16,010 --> 01:06:11,280
not based on who the presenter is but

1657
01:06:19,490 --> 01:06:16,020
how much sense it makes and

1658
01:06:22,250 --> 01:06:19,500
and how much they can possibly know of

1659
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,260
what they speak because a lot of it is

1660
01:06:26,809 --> 01:06:24,000
hypothetical in nature but that's okay

1661
01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:26,819
that's why we're here is to hypothesize

1662
01:06:33,130 --> 01:06:29,940
right that's it's if we knew the answer

1663
01:06:37,849 --> 01:06:36,710
yeah no you're absolutely right 100 well

1664
01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:37,859
I I

1665
01:06:41,870 --> 01:06:39,839
um it's probably not my turn his turn is

1666
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:41,880
to throw out a question I was gonna uh

1667
01:06:49,789 --> 01:06:45,359
is it I think it's mine yeah

1668
01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:49,799
okay so one thing that Linda has talked

1669
01:06:53,630 --> 01:06:52,380
to people about sort of more behind the

1670
01:06:56,569 --> 01:06:53,640
scenes than she did in the interview

1671
01:07:00,890 --> 01:06:56,579
that we did with her recently it's just

1672
01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:00,900
how to not be

1673
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,380
um ex exploiting the experiencer and and

1674
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,480
one thing that came up quite a bit um

1675
01:07:09,730 --> 01:07:07,920
and I think we mentioned it briefly here

1676
01:07:13,309 --> 01:07:09,740
too was that

1677
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:13,319
experiencers are kind of the data set so

1678
01:07:19,309 --> 01:07:15,839
how do you think that we can

1679
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,319
use that data but prevent the

1680
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:21,839
exploitation

1681
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:27,359
basically we're not going to treat them

1682
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:29,760
like guinea pigs anymore I want them to

1683
01:07:35,329 --> 01:07:33,119
be a part of the conversation not under

1684
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:35,339
a microscope

1685
01:07:40,370 --> 01:07:38,640
um so I want them I I personally just

1686
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:40,380
feel like people should

1687
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:42,480
be treated like people you know other

1688
01:07:45,890 --> 01:07:44,880
people have said this to you of course

1689
01:07:46,970 --> 01:07:45,900
um but

1690
01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:46,980
yeah

1691
01:07:50,569 --> 01:07:49,380
how do you think we can use that data

1692
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:50,579
set

1693
01:07:55,130 --> 01:07:53,520
without making people feel exploited

1694
01:07:58,730 --> 01:07:55,140
that's something that I really want

1695
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:01,490
Priscilla

1696
01:08:06,829 --> 01:08:03,839
that's it that's an interesting thought

1697
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,839
um and I agree that people should still

1698
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:08,880
be like people

1699
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:11,460
um but or be treated like people

1700
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:12,720
but

1701
01:08:18,050 --> 01:08:16,319
as the main data set we should have

1702
01:08:20,570 --> 01:08:18,060
somebody when people are giving their

1703
01:08:22,249 --> 01:08:20,580
data they should know where how it's

1704
01:08:23,689 --> 01:08:22,259
going to be used

1705
01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:23,699
that way it's kind of like an organ

1706
01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:26,819
donor like you sign up for it right so

1707
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:29,100
if you're an experiencer and you're like

1708
01:08:34,249 --> 01:08:32,040
go ahead use my story whatever

1709
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:34,259
um you know that you're going to be not

1710
01:08:40,729 --> 01:08:38,400
exploited but studied uh because

1711
01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:40,739
there's people that don't there's you

1712
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,880
know I feel like there's kind of like

1713
01:08:45,229 --> 01:08:43,440
three different camps of people there

1714
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,239
might be more there's the people that

1715
01:08:48,530 --> 01:08:47,040
don't mind being studied there's the

1716
01:08:49,789 --> 01:08:48,540
people that just have to get it out and

1717
01:08:51,050 --> 01:08:49,799
want to talk about it but don't ever

1718
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:51,060
want to talk about it again or don't

1719
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:52,319
want it to leave like the group they're

1720
01:08:56,209 --> 01:08:54,239
talking in like an experience like an

1721
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:56,219
experience or type of meeting

1722
01:09:01,550 --> 01:08:59,279
and then there's people that um you know

1723
01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:01,560
they tell you it and they just they're

1724
01:09:05,090 --> 01:09:03,060
they don't really care how it goes

1725
01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:05,100
either way but we have to be respectful

1726
01:09:10,370 --> 01:09:07,620
just like you would in any studies

1727
01:09:12,110 --> 01:09:10,380
um even working in a lab where I worked

1728
01:09:15,950 --> 01:09:12,120
with a lot of blood specimens

1729
01:09:18,289 --> 01:09:15,960
I was still like very respectful of this

1730
01:09:20,269 --> 01:09:18,299
tube of blood with somebody's number on

1731
01:09:22,490 --> 01:09:20,279
it because they didn't have names they

1732
01:09:24,410 --> 01:09:22,500
had a number and an age and that was

1733
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:24,420
important for the study

1734
01:09:30,169 --> 01:09:27,779
so but I still treated it

1735
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:30,179
like you know that's their DNA thank you

1736
01:09:33,530 --> 01:09:31,440
you know what I mean you have to treat

1737
01:09:34,970 --> 01:09:33,540
it with respect but then we look at how

1738
01:09:38,090 --> 01:09:34,980
we treat other animals that we're

1739
01:09:40,689 --> 01:09:38,100
studying and we exploit them but I think

1740
01:09:43,789 --> 01:09:40,699
as long as it an experiencer

1741
01:09:46,249 --> 01:09:43,799
knows what their data is being used for

1742
01:09:47,870 --> 01:09:46,259
then it should be used because we still

1743
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:47,880
need to

1744
01:09:52,370 --> 01:09:50,400
use the data that we have but I don't

1745
01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:52,380
agree with them being exploited without

1746
01:09:56,270 --> 01:09:54,360
their permission

1747
01:09:57,950 --> 01:09:56,280
and I guess exploit is kind of like a

1748
01:09:59,570 --> 01:09:57,960
really like you know

1749
01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:59,580
it's a Charged word

1750
01:10:02,209 --> 01:10:00,960
so

1751
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:02,219
um

1752
01:10:04,970 --> 01:10:03,600
you just I just think they have to know

1753
01:10:08,330 --> 01:10:04,980
where it's going and what it's being

1754
01:10:11,090 --> 01:10:08,340
used for because without their stories

1755
01:10:12,650 --> 01:10:11,100
and their data then we don't have

1756
01:10:14,930 --> 01:10:12,660
we don't have anything

1757
01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:14,940
if that makes any sense to like work

1758
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,490
Priscilla I'll let you be the judge of

1759
01:10:25,729 --> 01:10:22,080
this but I think I'm guilty of doing

1760
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,739
that in the last show when I asked Linda

1761
01:10:30,770 --> 01:10:27,840
to ask the phenomenon if they could grow

1762
01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:30,780
my hair back and I don't know if we know

1763
01:10:35,090 --> 01:10:33,060
what they said to that you gotta stop

1764
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:35,100
asking experiencers that you know that

1765
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:43,310
but I agree with Deb and I and I also

1766
01:10:47,209 --> 01:10:44,880
love how Deb

1767
01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:47,219
he sees people differently

1768
01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:50,580
and we need people like her with her

1769
01:10:55,550 --> 01:10:52,020
type of insight

1770
01:10:56,930 --> 01:10:55,560
and and knowledge to kind of direct the

1771
01:10:58,850 --> 01:10:56,940
rest of us

1772
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,860
do you know what I mean

1773
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:00,800
um

1774
01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:03,120
this person we gotta have that person no

1775
01:11:06,649 --> 01:11:04,980
you know I had to I I didn't I had the

1776
01:11:08,750 --> 01:11:06,659
pleasure of sitting with her like three

1777
01:11:11,330 --> 01:11:08,760
ways to New York three or three hours to

1778
01:11:12,530 --> 01:11:11,340
New York and three hours back and some

1779
01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:12,540
of the things she was saying I was just

1780
01:11:15,950 --> 01:11:15,179
like man I feel like there's people like

1781
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:15,960
you

1782
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:19,320
know what I mean like I I felt like an

1783
01:11:25,970 --> 01:11:23,360
[\h__\h] and people tell me okay you know

1784
01:11:28,490 --> 01:11:25,980
first of all you made that trip go very

1785
01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:28,500
quickly and I keep hoping that you're

1786
01:11:32,570 --> 01:11:30,060
gonna want to go with me next time

1787
01:11:36,649 --> 01:11:32,580
because I'm like no don't go with your

1788
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:36,659
family go hang out I know I know I know

1789
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:38,760
there will be a wealthy financier that

1790
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:40,560
wants to pay both of you guys yeah we

1791
01:11:43,610 --> 01:11:42,000
need that's what I was telling DJ I was

1792
01:11:46,689 --> 01:11:43,620
like I need like a sugar daddy that

1793
01:11:49,550 --> 01:11:46,699
doesn't ask for sugar so I guess

1794
01:11:52,189 --> 01:11:49,560
so basically I need a benefactor so if

1795
01:11:54,890 --> 01:11:52,199
anybody wants our sponsors I don't know

1796
01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:54,900
what they're called investor out in the

1797
01:11:58,370 --> 01:11:56,520
community if you would like to sponsor

1798
01:12:00,110 --> 01:11:58,380
Priscilla and Jeff's trip their

1799
01:12:02,450 --> 01:12:00,120
fact-finding mission to New York City

1800
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:02,460
where they'll bring you back tons of UAP

1801
01:12:07,930 --> 01:12:04,800
data and anecdotes uh you can find her

1802
01:12:12,110 --> 01:12:07,940
at at Quantum underscore

1803
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:12,120
w-i-t-c-h or at study of uaps

1804
01:12:14,930 --> 01:12:12,800
um

1805
01:12:16,250 --> 01:12:14,940
I will at least write you a nice thank

1806
01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:16,260
you card I can't even promise I'm

1807
01:12:19,490 --> 01:12:17,580
horrible at courage he made these

1808
01:12:22,010 --> 01:12:19,500
beautiful cards and I told her I was

1809
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:22,020
like I'm horrible at cards right like

1810
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,480
I've been guilty of like sending my best

1811
01:12:28,370 --> 01:12:26,159
friend a birthday present

1812
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,380
a great present like the coolest witch

1813
01:12:33,950 --> 01:12:31,440
box ever but with a blank card

1814
01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:33,960
I was like she was like oh I got my

1815
01:12:40,750 --> 01:12:35,100
present

1816
01:12:47,470 --> 01:12:44,270
I'm so embarrassed I'm an alien cat you

1817
01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:47,480
can't accept me to do stuff exactly

1818
01:12:52,729 --> 01:12:51,060
all right so uh Deb if I get this

1819
01:12:56,090 --> 01:12:52,739
correctly uh how now to exploit

1820
01:12:57,290 --> 01:12:56,100
experiencers but use the data set

1821
01:12:59,689 --> 01:12:57,300
um

1822
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:59,699
I think it's what we're trying to do on

1823
01:13:04,010 --> 01:13:00,960
this show

1824
01:13:07,070 --> 01:13:04,020
um we're trying to ask questions and

1825
01:13:09,470 --> 01:13:07,080
we're trying to vicariously live through

1826
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:09,480
the experiences of you know Priscilla's

1827
01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:11,100
heard me on the phone and like I can't

1828
01:13:15,169 --> 01:13:13,260
wait till she tells me about we haven't

1829
01:13:17,630 --> 01:13:15,179
talked about her experiences in several

1830
01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:17,640
months so I'm hoping that that's uh in

1831
01:13:22,970 --> 01:13:19,980
the offing here soon but but it is

1832
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:22,980
something when we have a David uh John

1833
01:13:28,189 --> 01:13:25,560
Lanier we have a Linda or several

1834
01:13:30,649 --> 01:13:28,199
experiences that we've had on we're sort

1835
01:13:32,689 --> 01:13:30,659
of living vicarious through them but I

1836
01:13:36,110 --> 01:13:32,699
think the idea of the exploitation comes

1837
01:13:39,050 --> 01:13:36,120
in is if you push too hard you owe me

1838
01:13:41,330 --> 01:13:39,060
tell me I want to know you know same

1839
01:13:43,490 --> 01:13:41,340
thing like with Richard Doty you know I

1840
01:13:45,530 --> 01:13:43,500
I just you know we we talked about if

1841
01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:45,540
you try to get tough with somebody and

1842
01:13:49,310 --> 01:13:47,820
you know and get really invasive they're

1843
01:13:51,169 --> 01:13:49,320
just going to pull back away from you

1844
01:13:54,110 --> 01:13:51,179
and they're going to be very happy not

1845
01:13:56,810 --> 01:13:54,120
to tell you much and if you just open it

1846
01:13:59,450 --> 01:13:56,820
up and just allow them to tell their

1847
01:14:01,490 --> 01:13:59,460
stories say you know I I'd like to know

1848
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:01,500
about this what did that feel like what

1849
01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:05,040
was that experience like was there a

1850
01:14:08,810 --> 01:14:07,260
flushless urinal on board the craft I

1851
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:08,820
mean you could ask any of these things

1852
01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:11,040
and if they want to answer you they will

1853
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:13,320
but you don't just keep digging I think

1854
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:15,840
you know we've talked about it uh in the

1855
01:14:19,310 --> 01:14:17,820
past when you're on a show and you

1856
01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:19,320
you're trying to dig and you're trying

1857
01:14:22,370 --> 01:14:20,699
to dig and all you do is piss that

1858
01:14:23,390 --> 01:14:22,380
person off and they never want to talk

1859
01:14:25,850 --> 01:14:23,400
to you again

1860
01:14:28,189 --> 01:14:25,860
so um that doesn't accomplish anything

1861
01:14:30,110 --> 01:14:28,199
so yeah I think you you can ask

1862
01:14:32,030 --> 01:14:30,120
questions in a nice and respectful way

1863
01:14:35,169 --> 01:14:32,040
and that's been the goal of cab since

1864
01:14:38,270 --> 01:14:35,179
you know it was Earl very easy to see

1865
01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:38,280
very early on in our first episode when

1866
01:14:43,130 --> 01:14:40,500
we had Carlene or I can't remember if it

1867
01:14:45,890 --> 01:14:43,140
was Natasha you know that that that we

1868
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:45,900
were going to handle uh asking questions

1869
01:14:50,330 --> 01:14:48,239
and respect uh whomever was coming on

1870
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:50,340
the same way so that that's how I feel

1871
01:14:54,770 --> 01:14:52,800
like we can get some data from them if

1872
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:54,780
they want to give you data and if they

1873
01:15:00,169 --> 01:14:58,080
don't you thank them for joining you and

1874
01:15:01,669 --> 01:15:00,179
um and and just you know the way that

1875
01:15:03,649 --> 01:15:01,679
you guys have been saying you know

1876
01:15:05,450 --> 01:15:03,659
actually all three of you have stated

1877
01:15:08,330 --> 01:15:05,460
this

1878
01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:08,340
when they realize uh experience or what

1879
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:10,980
they can contribute to the overall

1880
01:15:16,130 --> 01:15:14,400
discussion of the phenomenon they're the

1881
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,140
only ones that can tell us the

1882
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:18,000
government's not telling us

1883
01:15:22,430 --> 01:15:19,440
um it's not in their interest to tell us

1884
01:15:24,590 --> 01:15:22,440
but the experiences hope if if they feel

1885
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,600
like it's in their interest my goodness

1886
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:26,400
that's going to help us that that don't

1887
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:29,280
understand it to gain an understanding

1888
01:15:34,130 --> 01:15:31,520
yeah yeah well said

1889
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:34,140
it's a it's a very challenging situation

1890
01:15:45,290 --> 01:15:42,790
kind of Western mentality would be to

1891
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:45,300
collect all the data and do a

1892
01:15:49,790 --> 01:15:48,000
meta-analysis of experiencers and then

1893
01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:49,800
we would get out this you know

1894
01:15:54,649 --> 01:15:52,260
conclusion after I've done the metal and

1895
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:54,659
meta-analysis you know this is what it

1896
01:15:58,729 --> 01:15:56,640
all means like this is this is totally a

1897
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,739
western way of looking at this right and

1898
01:16:04,430 --> 01:16:00,719
I think we have to get more comfortable

1899
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:04,440
with looking at this problem from many

1900
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:06,480
different facets of understanding

1901
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,760
because there are there are individual

1902
01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:14,400
sort of ways of knowing and learning and

1903
01:16:18,770 --> 01:16:16,679
experiencing that are that are as

1904
01:16:20,270 --> 01:16:18,780
meaningful if not more meaningful than

1905
01:16:23,209 --> 01:16:20,280
the collective

1906
01:16:24,770 --> 01:16:23,219
learnings of of if you were to group all

1907
01:16:26,450 --> 01:16:24,780
of the experiences together and I think

1908
01:16:29,570 --> 01:16:26,460
we have to avoid the temptation of

1909
01:16:31,490 --> 01:16:29,580
saying okay well I I analyzed a thousand

1910
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:31,500
experiences and this is what they all

1911
01:16:36,290 --> 01:16:34,320
have in common so in five years we have

1912
01:16:37,610 --> 01:16:36,300
uh we can look to the end of the world

1913
01:16:39,530 --> 01:16:37,620
because that's what they're all saying

1914
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,540
right I think I think we have to really

1915
01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:41,280
like be careful of that because that

1916
01:16:47,209 --> 01:16:43,860
that that's our natural tendency right

1917
01:16:49,130 --> 01:16:47,219
is to take that you know very rigid way

1918
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:49,140
of looking at things and instead we

1919
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:50,239
forget

1920
01:16:56,030 --> 01:16:54,000
that that these are people people having

1921
01:16:58,189 --> 01:16:56,040
the experience when we have an

1922
01:17:01,070 --> 01:16:58,199
experience we're always contextualizing

1923
01:17:04,910 --> 01:17:01,080
the experience into our own life

1924
01:17:07,130 --> 01:17:04,920
whatever we've had in our past it colors

1925
01:17:09,709 --> 01:17:07,140
and flavors what we experience in the

1926
01:17:13,970 --> 01:17:09,719
now and how we explain it to someone

1927
01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:13,980
else is is based in that as well so it's

1928
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:15,719
really difficult to kind of divorce

1929
01:17:20,209 --> 01:17:18,000
these two things you know so and I don't

1930
01:17:23,209 --> 01:17:20,219
know that we even should you know there

1931
01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:23,219
where if you take seriously this notion

1932
01:17:26,450 --> 01:17:24,840
that uh

1933
01:17:29,209 --> 01:17:26,460
we are

1934
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:29,219
all on our own kind of Journey

1935
01:17:34,490 --> 01:17:31,920
not only in this life but in in past

1936
01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:34,500
lives future lives you know maybe even

1937
01:17:39,709 --> 01:17:36,780
happening simultaneously if time isn't

1938
01:17:41,209 --> 01:17:39,719
really the you know it's not linear it

1939
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:41,219
doesn't even exist in the way that we

1940
01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:43,440
think it exists then what does that say

1941
01:17:50,570 --> 01:17:47,460
it may it may mean that coming to a meta

1942
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:50,580
conclusion for Human Society is not

1943
01:17:57,050 --> 01:17:53,280
really as important as what's happening

1944
01:17:59,930 --> 01:17:57,060
in our own lived journey and what we

1945
01:18:01,729 --> 01:17:59,940
need to learn and grow and experience

1946
01:18:03,290 --> 01:18:01,739
so it's it's really really tough I think

1947
01:18:04,430 --> 01:18:03,300
we're going to do what I I think we're

1948
01:18:06,110 --> 01:18:04,440
unfortunately we're probably going to do

1949
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:06,120
what I said we maybe shouldn't do

1950
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:07,920
because that's just our tendency we're

1951
01:18:11,209 --> 01:18:09,600
going to throw it at a database we're

1952
01:18:12,649 --> 01:18:11,219
going to have ai go through it and it's

1953
01:18:14,030 --> 01:18:12,659
going to come out with some conclusions

1954
01:18:16,370 --> 01:18:14,040
and we're going to say well that's it

1955
01:18:18,890 --> 01:18:16,380
problem solved experiencers says it's

1956
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:18,900
XYZ I think I really think that's what

1957
01:18:22,430 --> 01:18:21,360
will happen if we do kind of go that

1958
01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:22,440
direction

1959
01:18:26,990 --> 01:18:25,320
okay you have to remember I'm sorry no

1960
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:27,000
please go ahead I was just going to

1961
01:18:32,510 --> 01:18:29,520
bring up Dr Sean again espion Harkins

1962
01:18:34,189 --> 01:18:32,520
see I can say it now yeah but then

1963
01:18:36,169 --> 01:18:34,199
there's people like him that are doing

1964
01:18:39,310 --> 01:18:36,179
studies or plan on he talked about doing

1965
01:18:43,310 --> 01:18:39,320
a study in the future and it's like

1966
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:43,320
he is such he's a scientist but he's so

1967
01:18:46,490 --> 01:18:44,640
uh

1968
01:18:48,350 --> 01:18:46,500
just feeling his energy you know like

1969
01:18:49,610 --> 01:18:48,360
he's just a gentle person and he's very

1970
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:49,620
caring about it so I think that the

1971
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:51,840
right people can do these studies again

1972
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:54,719
obviously people volunteer

1973
01:18:58,430 --> 01:18:56,400
um and realize that they are part of a

1974
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:58,440
study just like you know like you're

1975
01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:00,960
gonna go volunteer to do some psilocybin

1976
01:19:05,450 --> 01:19:02,640
or something fun like that but you know

1977
01:19:08,810 --> 01:19:05,460
but um or more boring like a blood

1978
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:08,820
pressure medication but but you know

1979
01:19:12,649 --> 01:19:11,280
like I think that it's still important

1980
01:19:14,570 --> 01:19:12,659
to study

1981
01:19:15,890 --> 01:19:14,580
maybe that's just like the inner nerd of

1982
01:19:17,630 --> 01:19:15,900
me but I think that there's people that

1983
01:19:19,070 --> 01:19:17,640
can do it without exploiting and I think

1984
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:19,080
that he's probably one of those people

1985
01:19:23,990 --> 01:19:21,360
that can do that without studying or

1986
01:19:26,330 --> 01:19:24,000
without exploiting and then even the way

1987
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:26,340
um Dr Nolan has talked about

1988
01:19:30,410 --> 01:19:28,320
um his studies you know

1989
01:19:32,930 --> 01:19:30,420
he's very respectful to it as well so I

1990
01:19:34,370 --> 01:19:32,940
think that it can be done but we need to

1991
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,380
make sure like the right people are

1992
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:36,960
doing it that are trained in like ethics

1993
01:19:40,430 --> 01:19:39,120
and you know even biomedical ethics

1994
01:19:41,870 --> 01:19:40,440
because there's so all the physical

1995
01:19:44,590 --> 01:19:41,880
things that have no experiences

1996
01:19:47,149 --> 01:19:44,600
something somebody that is gonna do it

1997
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,159
organized in a respectable way and in a

1998
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:49,440
way that people and other scientists and

1999
01:19:52,970 --> 01:19:51,600
other people will accept it and be able

2000
01:19:55,010 --> 01:19:52,980
to kind of

2001
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:55,020
um understand it

2002
01:19:58,729 --> 01:19:56,880
and I will say we've come a lot further

2003
01:20:01,070 --> 01:19:58,739
than we used to be I just listened to an

2004
01:20:02,750 --> 01:20:01,080
excellent interview and I'll plug I

2005
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:02,760
plugged it today on on social media but

2006
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:04,080
if you haven't had a chance to listen to

2007
01:20:07,850 --> 01:20:05,520
it listen to the Whitley streamer

2008
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,860
interview with Andy mcgrillin on that

2009
01:20:12,590 --> 01:20:09,840
UFO podcast and talk you know talk about

2010
01:20:14,750 --> 01:20:12,600
a person who's had trauma not just from

2011
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,760
the phenomenon but just from coming out

2012
01:20:18,649 --> 01:20:17,280
about his experience it's amazing so you

2013
01:20:20,810 --> 01:20:18,659
know I look at that and I think about

2014
01:20:23,870 --> 01:20:20,820
geez man we have covered so much ground

2015
01:20:25,729 --> 01:20:23,880
since Whitley first step forward and was

2016
01:20:28,130 --> 01:20:25,739
brave enough to talk about what he went

2017
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:28,140
through I can't imagine being those

2018
01:20:33,229 --> 01:20:30,960
early you know the early experiences

2019
01:20:34,970 --> 01:20:33,239
coming out like him but Deb was about to

2020
01:20:37,370 --> 01:20:34,980
say something and I know it was good so

2021
01:20:39,770 --> 01:20:37,380
well I was I was going to say a couple

2022
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:39,780
things first of all um Priscilla and I

2023
01:20:43,790 --> 01:20:41,940
talked about Whitley a few times

2024
01:20:45,890 --> 01:20:43,800
actually and and one of the things we

2025
01:20:49,490 --> 01:20:45,900
talked about was he made not that much

2026
01:20:52,729 --> 01:20:49,500
money from that book he lost the cabin

2027
01:20:55,130 --> 01:20:52,739
um so people don't always recognize how

2028
01:20:57,229 --> 01:20:55,140
much he actually sacrificed telling his

2029
01:20:59,450 --> 01:20:57,239
story and how much he's probably still

2030
01:21:02,870 --> 01:20:59,460
sacrificing I know this webpage is like

2031
01:21:05,090 --> 01:21:02,880
atrociously expensive he said so

2032
01:21:07,250 --> 01:21:05,100
um so I've kind of just summarized and I

2033
01:21:07,790 --> 01:21:07,260
was just gonna say that the thing that

2034
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:07,800
um

2035
01:21:13,310 --> 01:21:10,260
I liked the best was just respect all

2036
01:21:16,430 --> 01:21:13,320
Journeys I summarized Nathan

2037
01:21:18,770 --> 01:21:16,440
Journeys so I think that's kind of the

2038
01:21:20,570 --> 01:21:18,780
underlying uh answer there we just need

2039
01:21:22,970 --> 01:21:20,580
to respect all Journeys and that means

2040
01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:22,980
you know respect to the diversity with

2041
01:21:26,330 --> 01:21:24,360
them

2042
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:26,340
um you know respect that it is a journey

2043
01:21:31,130 --> 01:21:29,760
but I the final thing I wanted to say is

2044
01:21:32,689 --> 01:21:31,140
um having written down of course

2045
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,699
everything that we just talked about

2046
01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:34,800
because that's what I do

2047
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:38,760
um is how exciting is it going to be

2048
01:21:43,250 --> 01:21:41,040
when we finally get past that when we've

2049
01:21:45,530 --> 01:21:43,260
had enough stories about experiencers

2050
01:21:47,930 --> 01:21:45,540
going through walls and enough stories

2051
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:47,940
about experiencers having telepathic

2052
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,159
communication and we're like okay this

2053
01:21:53,870 --> 01:21:52,560
is this is happening now what how

2054
01:21:57,470 --> 01:21:53,880
exciting is that going to be just

2055
01:21:59,630 --> 01:21:57,480
something to think about the next page

2056
01:22:02,630 --> 01:21:59,640
that is that is exciting when we make

2057
01:22:06,169 --> 01:22:02,640
that that move and I want to say you

2058
01:22:08,990 --> 01:22:06,179
know uh I want to like support both what

2059
01:22:11,870 --> 01:22:09,000
Nathan said and what and what uh

2060
01:22:14,689 --> 01:22:11,880
Priscilla said as well uh Priscilla and

2061
01:22:17,450 --> 01:22:14,699
Deb and that the data set part Nathan's

2062
01:22:22,010 --> 01:22:17,460
interesting is that a lot of uh sports

2063
01:22:25,070 --> 01:22:22,020
fans used to say uh when Muhammad Ali's

2064
01:22:28,910 --> 01:22:25,080
career was over you say oh man uh Rocky

2065
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:28,920
Marciano was like 50-0 and but Ali came

2066
01:22:33,229 --> 01:22:30,960
after him he was amazing and they had a

2067
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:33,239
computer they put all this data into a

2068
01:22:37,370 --> 01:22:35,040
computer and had them fight and Ali won

2069
01:22:39,890 --> 01:22:37,380
it's like well you can't do that like

2070
01:22:42,410 --> 01:22:39,900
you know you know the Bruiser from

2071
01:22:44,270 --> 01:22:42,420
Brockton Mass the Lefty you know

2072
01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:44,280
Muhammad Ali you know maybe the greatest

2073
01:22:48,830 --> 01:22:46,320
heavyweight boxer of all time probably

2074
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:48,840
but you you can't have the fight on a

2075
01:22:52,970 --> 01:22:50,880
computer it just doesn't work you can

2076
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:52,980
put all that data in but you don't know

2077
01:22:56,930 --> 01:22:54,719
what's going to happen right and that

2078
01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:56,940
that's what you're saying and from

2079
01:23:02,149 --> 01:22:59,760
Priscilla standpoint the data set is

2080
01:23:04,490 --> 01:23:02,159
important from the standpoint that we

2081
01:23:07,310 --> 01:23:04,500
can at least get some some commonalities

2082
01:23:09,770 --> 01:23:07,320
some some knowns if you well first of

2083
01:23:11,570 --> 01:23:09,780
all I try to stay away from when I talk

2084
01:23:13,850 --> 01:23:11,580
about the phenomenon and I'm guilty of

2085
01:23:17,149 --> 01:23:13,860
it at some points but I try to stay away

2086
01:23:19,970 --> 01:23:17,159
from all every never always because if

2087
01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:19,980
you say all never every always you're

2088
01:23:23,689 --> 01:23:21,900
probably going to back yourself into a

2089
01:23:26,330 --> 01:23:23,699
corner that you can have to beg your way

2090
01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:26,340
out of right so that's one thing so with

2091
01:23:32,270 --> 01:23:29,219
the data sets yes uh Deb's talked about

2092
01:23:34,850 --> 01:23:32,280
if we have enough people that says you

2093
01:23:37,010 --> 01:23:34,860
know I was drawn through a wall you know

2094
01:23:38,810 --> 01:23:37,020
I couldn't believe it and I'm floating

2095
01:23:41,330 --> 01:23:38,820
up to this craft and it was in some sort

2096
01:23:42,770 --> 01:23:41,340
of a beam so then we can at least take

2097
01:23:45,350 --> 01:23:42,780
that and go there's some commonalities

2098
01:23:48,110 --> 01:23:45,360
and the same thing we've done with uh

2099
01:23:50,930 --> 01:23:48,120
with Sasquatch you know we've said they

2100
01:23:52,610 --> 01:23:50,940
emitted a sound and when they yell there

2101
01:23:54,410 --> 01:23:52,620
was a certain sound and it made me feel

2102
01:23:56,990 --> 01:23:54,420
an emotion and I couldn't move and I

2103
01:23:58,729 --> 01:23:57,000
peed myself uh and but before they did

2104
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,739
that I was okay but then when they

2105
01:24:03,169 --> 01:24:00,960
decided they were going to do that their

2106
01:24:07,070 --> 01:24:03,179
pheromones they were able to emit this

2107
01:24:09,470 --> 01:24:07,080
scent that smelled like wet garbage or

2108
01:24:12,290 --> 01:24:09,480
wet dogs and garbage and stuff all mixed

2109
01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:12,300
together but then uh all of a sudden

2110
01:24:16,250 --> 01:24:15,060
they stopped and it was gone so just you

2111
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:16,260
know but there's certain things that

2112
01:24:20,030 --> 01:24:18,000
we've been able to apply all these

2113
01:24:22,430 --> 01:24:20,040
different experiences and say okay this

2114
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:22,440
is what you might experience in the face

2115
01:24:27,470 --> 01:24:25,020
of Sasquatch they may make you they can

2116
01:24:30,050 --> 01:24:27,480
be completely silent when they're

2117
01:24:32,090 --> 01:24:30,060
approaching you if they want to or they

2118
01:24:33,950 --> 01:24:32,100
can stop their feet to make you scared

2119
01:24:35,149 --> 01:24:33,960
and make you run back to the car at the

2120
01:24:38,689 --> 01:24:35,159
trailhead

2121
01:24:41,090 --> 01:24:38,699
so how can an 800 animal walk silently

2122
01:24:43,790 --> 01:24:41,100
through the woods when myself at 200

2123
01:24:45,470 --> 01:24:43,800
pounds cannot I don't know because I

2124
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:45,480
can't not make some noise when I'm

2125
01:24:48,290 --> 01:24:47,100
walking through the woods how can they

2126
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:48,300
do it

2127
01:24:52,910 --> 01:24:51,360
peop enough people have said they can

2128
01:24:54,410 --> 01:24:52,920
um walked right up and but then when

2129
01:24:56,510 --> 01:24:54,420
they want you know once you know they're

2130
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,520
there they let you know that they're

2131
01:25:00,169 --> 01:24:58,800
there because their goal may be to push

2132
01:25:02,209 --> 01:25:00,179
you out of their area for whatever

2133
01:25:03,770 --> 01:25:02,219
reason that they have you're too close

2134
01:25:05,930 --> 01:25:03,780
to the family unit too close to the

2135
01:25:09,530 --> 01:25:05,940
women too close to the kids whatever it

2136
01:25:11,330 --> 01:25:09,540
is anyway so yeah that's my theory there

2137
01:25:14,570 --> 01:25:11,340
is something we can draw from some of

2138
01:25:16,490 --> 01:25:14,580
the data but as Nathan said it's not

2139
01:25:18,290 --> 01:25:16,500
all-encompassing and it's not like

2140
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:18,300
throwing it into computer and it's going

2141
01:25:23,930 --> 01:25:20,400
to spit out an answer for us like

2142
01:25:26,450 --> 01:25:23,940
Marciano versus Ali

2143
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,460
yeah love it

2144
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:29,040
well uh and we got a few minutes left

2145
01:25:32,450 --> 01:25:31,199
um Priscilla I wanted to give you an

2146
01:25:33,530 --> 01:25:32,460
opportunity to just kind of tell us a

2147
01:25:35,390 --> 01:25:33,540
little bit about

2148
01:25:37,010 --> 01:25:35,400
what what's on the horizon for you and

2149
01:25:39,770 --> 01:25:37,020
I've got you've got book club coming up

2150
01:25:41,930 --> 01:25:39,780
again which I always look forward to and

2151
01:25:43,729 --> 01:25:41,940
I'm sure you're cranking out some more

2152
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,739
shows too so what what's uh what's on

2153
01:25:48,050 --> 01:25:45,360
the plate for you

2154
01:25:50,810 --> 01:25:48,060
well um on Friday I have uh Dockside

2155
01:25:52,250 --> 01:25:50,820
media on again they are every time they

2156
01:25:54,590 --> 01:25:52,260
make a document they're just cool guys

2157
01:25:56,090 --> 01:25:54,600
and they put a lot of heart and work

2158
01:25:57,649 --> 01:25:56,100
into what they do and this one they've

2159
01:25:59,570 --> 01:25:57,659
got some intro they have John Ramirez on

2160
01:26:02,629 --> 01:25:59,580
their new documentary that's coming out

2161
01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:02,639
so um they will be on again and I just

2162
01:26:08,810 --> 01:26:06,239
love those guys and then I at the end of

2163
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:08,820
the month I have two things happening on

2164
01:26:14,689 --> 01:26:12,480
the 20 the morning of the 29th I have

2165
01:26:16,729 --> 01:26:14,699
um oh my goodness

2166
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:16,739
Jeff [\h__\h] coming on sorry I was gonna

2167
01:26:20,689 --> 01:26:19,440
call you I have a yes and I people are

2168
01:26:24,129 --> 01:26:20,699
like oh you just call him Jeff he told

2169
01:26:28,970 --> 01:26:27,110
what's up hanging out with Jeff you know

2170
01:26:30,110 --> 01:26:28,980
um and I feel very

2171
01:26:31,729 --> 01:26:30,120
um

2172
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:31,739
I don't know I just feel so grateful

2173
01:26:36,290 --> 01:26:34,320
that he was willing to come on again to

2174
01:26:39,169 --> 01:26:36,300
talk about his book

2175
01:26:41,930 --> 01:26:39,179
and then I'm doing like a that I think

2176
01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:41,940
that night I'm doing a uh like a Tarot

2177
01:26:46,669 --> 01:26:45,600
party on my channel so live readings

2178
01:26:50,209 --> 01:26:46,679
um I think that I'm gonna have another

2179
01:26:52,189 --> 01:26:50,219
reader join me and then anybody else in

2180
01:26:55,370 --> 01:26:52,199
the chat can get like some card pulls

2181
01:26:56,750 --> 01:26:55,380
and also kind of like a a sound

2182
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,760
meditation

2183
01:27:01,370 --> 01:26:58,800
um which is what it's called to which is

2184
01:27:04,610 --> 01:27:01,380
it's a you know it's a very big night

2185
01:27:06,590 --> 01:27:04,620
um each Halloween or salad as witches

2186
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:06,600
call it is

2187
01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:08,400
um the veil gets thinner and thinner and

2188
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,040
it's not going back to normal and this

2189
01:27:15,410 --> 01:27:13,440
is something that I experienced in a

2190
01:27:17,390 --> 01:27:15,420
meditation the lot when there was the

2191
01:27:19,370 --> 01:27:17,400
eclipse in super Boone on salmon a

2192
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,380
couple years ago

2193
01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:20,880
um I was told that things are never

2194
01:27:24,890 --> 01:27:22,860
going to be back to normal as far as

2195
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:24,900
people's perception of like the worlds

2196
01:27:30,050 --> 01:27:27,360
around us the spirit world and other

2197
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:30,060
worlds as well so um I just want to lead

2198
01:27:35,090 --> 01:27:33,120
the people probably through a meditation

2199
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:35,100
um to help them kind of

2200
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:36,960
ground during these times before we head

2201
01:27:42,410 --> 01:27:38,340
into winter

2202
01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:42,420
because it's kind of like people you

2203
01:27:47,209 --> 01:27:44,040
know our ancestors kind of went Inward

2204
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:47,219
and it's kind of a hard time for people

2205
01:27:50,570 --> 01:27:48,480
um to be honest because the sunlight

2206
01:27:53,390 --> 01:27:50,580
goes down you know the hours of sunlight

2207
01:27:56,090 --> 01:27:53,400
get less and people just automatically

2208
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,100
start being more introspective

2209
01:28:01,010 --> 01:27:57,840
um like very much like the trees are you

2210
01:28:02,390 --> 01:28:01,020
know so I just wanted to educate people

2211
01:28:04,490 --> 01:28:02,400
about that

2212
01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:04,500
and then I'll be coming out on Katie

2213
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:07,199
howland's podcast to talk about nice

2214
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,320
tarot divination and sound as well so

2215
01:28:13,970 --> 01:28:12,480
just kind of talking about witchy things

2216
01:28:16,729 --> 01:28:13,980
towards the end of the month and I can't

2217
01:28:18,890 --> 01:28:16,739
wait to talk to Dockside media and Jeff

2218
01:28:20,810 --> 01:28:18,900
kreipel about his book and everything

2219
01:28:22,610 --> 01:28:20,820
else and let me say his name was brought

2220
01:28:24,590 --> 01:28:22,620
up by everybody

2221
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:24,600
yes at that conference

2222
01:28:28,250 --> 01:28:27,360
you you know everybody so

2223
01:28:29,870 --> 01:28:28,260
um

2224
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:29,880
people need to talk about him more and

2225
01:28:33,229 --> 01:28:31,920
his work more and he said you know I

2226
01:28:35,750 --> 01:28:33,239
meant to write this book as like an

2227
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:35,760
academic book but we all know that this

2228
01:28:41,149 --> 01:28:37,920
community is very intelligent

2229
01:28:42,770 --> 01:28:41,159
and they are all academics at heart

2230
01:28:44,930 --> 01:28:42,780
anyway so

2231
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:44,940
um yeah I'm just excited for the rest of

2232
01:28:48,290 --> 01:28:46,080
the month

2233
01:28:50,750 --> 01:28:48,300
that's awesome yeah there'll be ones to

2234
01:28:52,430 --> 01:28:50,760
look out for uh definitely good looking

2235
01:28:54,370 --> 01:28:52,440
forward to hyping those when they when

2236
01:28:57,229 --> 01:28:54,380
they come around uh very exciting

2237
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:57,239
absolutely absolutely well

2238
01:28:59,810 --> 01:28:58,560
um I know I'm gonna head out to you DJ

2239
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,820
but I want to thank the audience for

2240
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,920
joining us this evening uh this has been

2241
01:29:06,290 --> 01:29:03,840
a lively chat it's great to see so many

2242
01:29:07,370 --> 01:29:06,300
you know friendly familiar faces in the

2243
01:29:09,229 --> 01:29:07,380
chat

2244
01:29:12,110 --> 01:29:09,239
um if you can hit a like that'd be great

2245
01:29:14,030 --> 01:29:12,120
good for the show helps us uh in the in

2246
01:29:16,129 --> 01:29:14,040
the algorithm I suppose which we all

2247
01:29:17,950 --> 01:29:16,139
serve praise algorithm

2248
01:29:20,050 --> 01:29:17,960
um

2249
01:29:23,330 --> 01:29:20,060
praise the algorithm

2250
01:29:25,550 --> 01:29:23,340
this joint I mean look we got Priscilla

2251
01:29:27,770 --> 01:29:25,560
Stone let me come on it's a big deal

2252
01:29:31,370 --> 01:29:27,780
yeah it's a big deal

2253
01:29:32,930 --> 01:29:31,380
after you sir all right so I was gonna I

2254
01:29:34,669 --> 01:29:32,940
think next week we're having Katie

2255
01:29:36,350 --> 01:29:34,679
Howland and Vinnie Vinnie Adams right

2256
01:29:38,270 --> 01:29:36,360
that's correct next week well we have uh

2257
01:29:42,649 --> 01:29:38,280
sorry we have actually before that even

2258
01:29:45,290 --> 01:29:42,659
we have uh Simeon Heinz so uh that's on

2259
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:45,300
Monday the 17th super excited to talk to

2260
01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:47,520
that guy we're gonna get all crypted up

2261
01:29:53,629 --> 01:29:50,159
in the joint and then it's Katie and

2262
01:29:54,709 --> 01:29:53,639
Vinnie and then I think it's uh James

2263
01:30:01,810 --> 01:29:54,719
Fox

2264
01:30:05,390 --> 01:30:01,820
uh uh what's her name Robin Haynes McRae

2265
01:30:07,370 --> 01:30:05,400
who has based her and her husband Pat

2266
01:30:09,470 --> 01:30:07,380
we've added her husband Pat as well

2267
01:30:13,250 --> 01:30:09,480
basically has bigfoot coming up to their

2268
01:30:15,410 --> 01:30:13,260
Garden every day and uh and hanging out

2269
01:30:19,129 --> 01:30:15,420
so she she does the Mind speak with them

2270
01:30:21,290 --> 01:30:19,139
like I was telling um I believe I was

2271
01:30:25,490 --> 01:30:21,300
telling Priscilla about uh Arlo Williams

2272
01:30:29,689 --> 01:30:25,500
from Oklahoma Cherokee uh young lady and

2273
01:30:31,729 --> 01:30:29,699
she was able to mind speak with them in

2274
01:30:35,330 --> 01:30:31,739
this investigator who we're having on

2275
01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:35,340
name Rick Taylor uh from Texas uh

2276
01:30:42,050 --> 01:30:38,340
retired uh fire investigator

2277
01:30:44,209 --> 01:30:42,060
he uh he's he's also uh half Cherokee

2278
01:30:45,709 --> 01:30:44,219
and so Arla said yeah you can come up to

2279
01:30:48,169 --> 01:30:45,719
my my property and look around if you

2280
01:30:49,490 --> 01:30:48,179
want to and then she's like after two

2281
01:30:52,010 --> 01:30:49,500
days and he wasn't having any

2282
01:30:54,410 --> 01:30:52,020
interaction with Sasquatch she said okay

2283
01:30:55,850 --> 01:30:54,420
you ready to meet him and she walks up

2284
01:30:58,070 --> 01:30:55,860
to him in the woods with with no

2285
01:31:00,470 --> 01:30:58,080
flashlight just making a beeline through

2286
01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:00,480
the woods with no light and he says yes

2287
01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:02,639
I'm ready and then um

2288
01:31:07,850 --> 01:31:04,860
yeah she put him right in front of a

2289
01:31:09,950 --> 01:31:07,860
whole family so uh so yeah so we're

2290
01:31:11,649 --> 01:31:09,960
gonna have all those people on very

2291
01:31:13,490 --> 01:31:11,659
exciting

2292
01:31:16,729 --> 01:31:13,500
Priscilla um

2293
01:31:19,129 --> 01:31:16,739
thank you uh very much we all really

2294
01:31:20,750 --> 01:31:19,139
really admire well let me let Debs say

2295
01:31:22,790 --> 01:31:20,760
whatever she wants to say you guys are

2296
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:22,800
after all the Thelma and Louise of of

2297
01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:25,679
their UAP media yeah I just wanted to

2298
01:31:30,229 --> 01:31:27,900
say you know I can't put the top down on

2299
01:31:32,270 --> 01:31:30,239
my car but I'll be happy to take you to

2300
01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:32,280
New York again

2301
01:31:36,290 --> 01:31:35,280
in December subtle hints so we'll have

2302
01:31:39,410 --> 01:31:36,300
to talk I didn't know you were gonna

2303
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:39,420
actually make it out again so yeah I'm

2304
01:31:45,169 --> 01:31:42,960
good to it okay well we'll talk um I

2305
01:31:46,610 --> 01:31:45,179
have another notebook to write in oh

2306
01:31:48,830 --> 01:31:46,620
yeah you're gonna need a bigger one this

2307
01:31:52,129 --> 01:31:48,840
time because

2308
01:31:57,890 --> 01:31:52,139
yeah I mean we'll throw in a can of skin

2309
01:32:01,430 --> 01:31:59,810
why did I picture you walking down the

2310
01:32:05,090 --> 01:32:01,440
aisles with your like those cigarette

2311
01:32:06,669 --> 01:32:05,100
girls but with your little skincare pin

2312
01:32:10,250 --> 01:32:06,679
yeah exactly

2313
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:10,260
with Nathan's face on it yeah right and

2314
01:32:14,030 --> 01:32:12,000
Nathan and I are going to be there so

2315
01:32:16,189 --> 01:32:14,040
unless something happens that causes me

2316
01:32:17,570 --> 01:32:16,199
not to be able to be there I'm planning

2317
01:32:19,490 --> 01:32:17,580
on being there

2318
01:32:21,010 --> 01:32:19,500
um so if there's any more incentive to

2319
01:32:23,620 --> 01:32:21,020
want to go than that

2320
01:32:24,050 --> 01:32:23,630
probably quite a bit but anyway

2321
01:32:26,570 --> 01:32:24,060
[Laughter]

2322
01:32:32,030 --> 01:32:29,030
anyway Priscilla no all kidding aside no

2323
01:32:33,950 --> 01:32:32,040
jokes no tipping bartenders or waiters

2324
01:32:36,290 --> 01:32:33,960
um thank you very much it really was an

2325
01:32:38,750 --> 01:32:36,300
honor to have you on and uh to be your

2326
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:38,760
friend and hopefully I haven't irritated

2327
01:32:48,610 --> 01:32:45,110
oh no you haven't oh you're waiting for

2328
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:51,410
I've had to explain to DJ like I'm a cat

2329
01:33:01,610 --> 01:32:58,970
he's very he's a very cat friendly

2330
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,620
person he's we're adopting we're working

2331
01:33:05,689 --> 01:33:03,360
on adopting a new one right now I sent

2332
01:33:07,970 --> 01:33:05,699
oh I got Katie's application filled out

2333
01:33:09,709 --> 01:33:07,980
because UCI passed so we're going to try

2334
01:33:13,070 --> 01:33:09,719
to adopt and bring our pet family back

2335
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:13,080
to five oh so yeah I'm really excited I

2336
01:33:19,310 --> 01:33:15,120
told her you choose and yeah I'm just

2337
01:33:21,530 --> 01:33:19,320
very excited to whomever she brings home

2338
01:33:23,629 --> 01:33:21,540
um thank you very much so uh this has

2339
01:33:24,830 --> 01:33:23,639
been uh really cool like I said I think

2340
01:33:28,189 --> 01:33:24,840
this is the first time we've had

2341
01:33:31,310 --> 01:33:28,199
Priscilla on uh solo hopefully it's not

2342
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:31,320
the last because she is so d-o-p-e is

2343
01:33:35,629 --> 01:33:33,840
what I'm talking about so far for uh

2344
01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:35,639
Priscilla Stone the quantum witch go and

2345
01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:38,400
check her out on YouTube on pod she's

2346
01:33:42,649 --> 01:33:40,800
crazy cool go check out book club uh

2347
01:33:44,689 --> 01:33:42,659
with Nathan Nathan has a new pod that

2348
01:33:47,209 --> 01:33:44,699
he's going to be doing with Kelly Chase

2349
01:33:48,410 --> 01:33:47,219
and UFO rabbit hole is that right yeah

2350
01:33:50,570 --> 01:33:48,420
it's uh it's actually it's a little

2351
01:33:52,669 --> 01:33:50,580
Channel called perturbations with Kelly

2352
01:33:54,830 --> 01:33:52,679
and Nathan so what

2353
01:33:57,290 --> 01:33:54,840
oh you're gonna see that once a month

2354
01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:57,300
once a month is it has it happened yet

2355
01:34:02,090 --> 01:34:00,000
because well it was funny we did the

2356
01:34:04,129 --> 01:34:02,100
first episode uh even though we didn't

2357
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:04,139
have the idea to do the show like we did

2358
01:34:08,030 --> 01:34:06,239
the we did the episode and during the

2359
01:34:09,410 --> 01:34:08,040
episode had such a good time we're like

2360
01:34:11,870 --> 01:34:09,420
why don't we just make this a once a

2361
01:34:13,250 --> 01:34:11,880
month thing so the the second episode

2362
01:34:15,770 --> 01:34:13,260
will actually be the episode where we

2363
01:34:17,629 --> 01:34:15,780
tell you what the show is about so oh

2364
01:34:19,610 --> 01:34:17,639
please yeah if you would Nathan put that

2365
01:34:22,430 --> 01:34:19,620
in the show notes so that I can put that

2366
01:34:24,229 --> 01:34:22,440
out I'm super excited I love it when my

2367
01:34:27,590 --> 01:34:24,239
colleagues go and do these other

2368
01:34:29,209 --> 01:34:27,600
projects uh because I don't think uh uh

2369
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:29,219
I mean everybody needs to have some of

2370
01:34:34,610 --> 01:34:31,440
the love that these guys have to give so

2371
01:34:37,729 --> 01:34:34,620
uh for uh Jewel thank you uh Happy new

2372
01:34:40,010 --> 01:34:37,739
kitty DJ thank you for our chat host uh

2373
01:34:42,410 --> 01:34:40,020
Julie Farrell our remote viewer for Deb

2374
01:34:44,750 --> 01:34:42,420
for Priscilla Stone from my brother the

2375
01:34:46,910 --> 01:34:44,760
co-conspirator Nathan this is DJ saying

2376
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:46,920
peace out one love we'll see down the

2377
01:34:51,470 --> 01:34:49,199
road and as always we're wondering

2378
01:34:59,800 --> 01:34:51,480
what's up around the bend